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partially visible anus -> anus peek

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I have also questioned myself about the utility of having both tags, I'm yet not sure about it myself, but if you want to try it, you could include "alias partially_visible_vulva -> pussy_peek" to the BUR as well.

nonamethanks said:

BUR #10883 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias partially_visible_vulva -> pussy_peek

Yeah these tags are synonyms.

I always found the two tags being used to describe appreciably different degrees of exposure. partially_visible_vulva showed skin up to, but not including, the cleft between the two sides and/or the labia minora, while pussy_peek necessarily did. The distinction may have been subtle, but it marked the difference between a PG-13 image and an R or X rated one (to borrow from the MPAA ratings guidelines).

I don't get this logic. post #5480381 is a pussy visible through panties. If pussy peek implicates pussy then a tag that's just called "partially visible pussy" should get the pussy tag too.

This not even getting into the fact that the two tags were undistinguishable. I manually checked about half of pussy peek/partially visible vulva before approving this and it was obvious nobody ever cared for any distinction of the terms, when it wasn't mistagged cameltoe (which is also a reason why "partially visible vulva" is a terrible tag name). Who's going to enforce a distinction for two tags that are synonyms?

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nonamethanks said:

I don't get this logic. post #5480381 is a pussy visible through panties. If pussy peek implicates pussy then a tag that's just called "partially visible pussy" should get the pussy tag too.

This not even getting into the fact that the two tags were undistinguishable. I manually checked about half of pussy peek/partially visible vulva before approving this and it was obvious nobody ever cared for any distinction of the terms, when it wasn't mistagged cameltoe (which is also a reason why "partially visible vulva" is a terrible tag name). Who's going to enforce a distinction for two tags that are synonyms?

Me! I distincted the terms!

My rhetoric for tagging was - if you can actually see the slit itself, tag it pussy peek. If you can see only the labia majora, it's a partially visible vulva.

Any of the images that I tagged partially visible vulva do not have a visible slit, therefore should not be tagged pussy.

Yes, and unless you're taking a medical class, vulva is synonym with pussy, which is why they were "largely exclusive" only in the sense that our users tagged one or the other depending on their personal preference.

Here, pussy peek before the alias and partially visible vulva before the alias, some 200 posts for each taken randomly from the post versions you linked. You'd be hard-pressed to figure out which is which without looking at the post versions.

pussy peek before the alias was filled with things like post #4927522, post #4209060, post #4369221, post #5039415, and partially visible vulva was routinely used for things like post #3586111, post #5329397, post #4869327, post #4075073, post #3246872, post #5142668, post #2933190. So no, mine was not a "ad hoc rationalization", it was a statement made after having looked at thousands of posts tagged with either tag before approving the alias, and realizing that, as usual, nobody cares about wiki definitions that someone came up with 15 years ago, and our users are just going to tag things as they naively understand them. If partially visible vulva should not have been tagged with pussy then the same applies to pussy peek, because the two tags were used for the same kind of posts, because the two terms mean the same thing, and because nobody was ever going to garden ten thousand posts of barely visible pussy slips based on some arbitrary definition that everyone else already ignored.

If anything, a better argument would've been that pussy peek could've implied partially visible vulva instead of the two tags being aliased, in order to be able to search specifically for partially visible internal parts of the pussy, but that's not how pussy peek was being used either, as seen by the examples above.

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If pussy peek is going to outright replace partially visible vulva, then the pussy implication needs to be removed, and retroactively applied to all posts that were changed with this alias. As it stands, loads of posts are incorrectly tagged pussy despite no slit being visible. Which is also why keeping the name as "pussy peek" instead of "partially visible vulva" is also a bad alias, as all pussy peeks are vulva peeks but not all vulva peeks are pussy peeks.

borkrogers said:

I always found the two tags being used to describe appreciably different degrees of exposure. partially_visible_vulva showed skin up to, but not including, the cleft between the two sides and/or the labia minora, while pussy_peek necessarily did. The distinction may have been subtle, but it marked the difference between a PG-13 image and an R or X rated one (to borrow from the MPAA ratings guidelines).

This too. Vulva slips are okay in ecchi manga, but a visible slit is outright banned in published shounen works. The difference between the two is very much a big deal in Japanese published works as well, which is why this alias isn't a good one.

I'd be down to assist gardening the tag if the alias is reversed.

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Hillside_Moose said:

Reversed the alias, though I took off anus_peek from the BUR. The pussy_peek alias continues to have knock-on effects by automatically tagging pussy on cameltoe posts, which are supposed to be mutually exclusive.

@KalpacMuskoxen, you can start the gardening process if you wish.

Totally doable! Would it be possible to revert the affected posts to how they were tagged before the batch update? It'd be an easier starting point to remove the pussy tag from all of the images that didn't have that tag to begin with, and then just further distinguish between the posts tagged PP and PVV from there.

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