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Madoka Magica titles (plus liberating Rebellion?)

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BUR #15177 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

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Madoka Magica lacks a real copytag for the first installment. To truly search for "only the 2011 anime and its adaptations" you need a Platinum+ account, and even then, it's extremely impractical. Even just madoka_magica -magia_record -rebellion_story has its counter time out for me, though with an alternate method it can be determined that those two tags contribute to around 15.4% of the entire Madoka Magica tag. For just 2022, that value is even higher - 57.7% posts are those two installments.

The name of the new copytag, whether Movie 1&2/Manga/Novel should imply it and whether the main copyright tag should be renamed is still up to discussion.

Honestly, I think it would be best if none of those three tags, Movie 1&2/Manga/Novel, implied the proposed anime tag, since someone searching for the 2011 anime would probably be confused by the art referencing the novel's flashback segments or the manga's various differences from the anime, and on the two recap movies, I had mentioned how those could probably be dumped into the core Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica tag if the changes introduced by the movies had just become part of the series as a whole.

But if no one opposes having them imply the anime's tag, then neither will I. The modifier would just be slightly misleading, but it's not like we have a better choice, and even if we did, we can just alias this new tag to it later.

PMMM is the only copyright I can think of that has separate tags for adaptations with such minuscule changes. We don't have separate tags for any of the JJBA anime seasons, and they do differ. Bocchi the Rock! has differences, hell, we don't even have a tag for the old Sailor Moon anime (that is known to be less faithful to the manga than Crystal). Madoka Magica having such tags is an outlier.

KagayakuShiningGate said:

PMMM is the only copyright I can think of that has separate tags for adaptations with such minuscule changes. We don't have separate tags for any of the JJBA anime seasons, and they do differ. Bocchi the Rock! has differences, hell, we don't even have a tag for the old Sailor Moon anime (that is known to be less faithful to the manga than Crystal). Madoka Magica having such tags is an outlier.

I don't think it's fair comparing PMMM to anime adaptations of manga, where adaptational differences are sometimes inevitable, to call back to me mentioning how it's more justified in those cases (plus, most folks drawing and tagging will only have experienced one form of a given property, which will almost always be the anime). When you look beyond manga-to-anime (and to an extent, light novel-to-elsewhere) adaptations, the line becomes slightly less clear. MuvLuv Alternative (anime), despite being a game-to-anime adaptation, has a tag, even as the manga (which it draws elements from) doesn't. The original Dirty Pair (novels) have their own tag distinct from its adaptations. We've got the Star Wars Manga (which seems to exist only because of official art), and Kamen Rider ZO (manga version).

Honestly I just want something that separates Madoka Magica from Magia Record. When I look up Madoka Magica, unless I look for specific characters, the tag is just flooded with Magia Record when I only care about the original anime rather than the spin-off. I have Magia Record blacklisted but it still just leaves giant “splotches” of missing images that makes it inconvenient to search through.

Yep, I get it. That's what the BUR is at least partially attempting to solve.

(That being said, I was considering also making a tag that would separate "mainline" Madoka media from the spinoffs (kind of like Touhou has a tag specifically for PC-98 games, and how Pokemon has a tag for all games combined), though I'm not really sure how much would fall under it - just OG series (+adaptations) + Rebellion + maybe Walpurgis no Kaiten? Or Wraith Arc+Concept Movie too, which may not be canon? How about the older games that pretty much only had Holy Quintet/Sextet (Portable, Mobage, Plus)?)

It has been nearly three months since this BUR's creation, and a little over a month since its failure. If it cannot be a way for the tag for the 2011 anime to be created, what can? Should I do that manually, somehow? The Madoka Magica tag is over 60k posts, and over 50k without Rebellion or spinoffs. That would be quite a lot to go through manually, so I would prefer to avoid it.

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