Danbooru

Alternate Image Text

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The bulk update request #11278 has been rejected.

create alias alt_text -> source_image_text

Need to settle on the tag name for this. I'm against alt text though because it's a very technical name, as it refers to the alt attribute on an <img> element, and I'm sure most users would not know what it means. I'm not set on the source image text name either, so if anyone has a better and more intuitive name, I'd be fine with changing it to that.

Why do we tag English commentary, or mixed-language commentary, or symbol-only commentary, or partial commentary, etc. etc. It's so that users can search for variations of commentary of any type, to include this alternate text addon which exists at the source, and very often adds additional information such as character dialog. Otherwise, you'd asking users to search the commentaries using wildcards or regexes in order to find these types of commentaries.

The bulk update request #11283 has been approved by @Hillside_Moose.

create alias source_image_text -> alt_text

I'm proposing the reverse.

Reason: Alt text is the established term for this and clear in it's meaning of "alternative text", while "source image text" seems ambiguous and is a new term not used anywhere outside Danbooru.
More importantly Twitter, the source that will make up 99% of this tag, calls it "ALT" so alt_text will be more intuitive.

nonamethanks said:

Why do we even have this tag? It seems like a really bizarre thing to tag.

It's a source of additional commentary, primarily from Twitter posts since they support the functionality for text to speech readers. In fact, out of the 545 posts under the tag only 5 of them are sourced from sites other than Twitter

HeeroWingZero said:

It's a source of additional commentary, primarily from Twitter posts since they support the functionality for text to speech readers. In fact, out of the 545 posts under the tag only 5 of them are sourced from sites other than Twitter

I know what it is, I just see no point in tagging it. It's like tagging commentaries with html or that contain any kind of emoji. I just don't see the usefulness of this kind of precision for tagging commentaries.

nonamethanks said:

I know what it is, I just see no point in tagging it. It's like tagging commentaries with html or that contain any kind of emoji. I just don't see the usefulness of this kind of precision for tagging commentaries.

We already tag commentary typo which is infinitely less useful imo. I'd also argue that an alt text tag is at least as useful as the digital medium tags, of which photoshop_(medium) alone has 700k posts...

AngryZapdos said:

I'd also argue that an alt text tag is at least as useful as the digital medium tags, of which photoshop_(medium) alone has 700k posts...

When those tags were populated there was no way to see metadata in danbooru, so they're much less useful now that you can just open a media asset's metadata. In any case if a tag is garbage then "this tag is also garbage" is not a valid reason to keep it.

nonamethanks said:

When those tags were populated there was no way to see metadata in danbooru, so they're much less useful now that you can just open a media asset's metadata. In any case if a tag is garbage then "this tag is also garbage" is not a valid reason to keep it.

Is there any way to search for alt text without a tag for it?

AngryZapdos said:

Is there any way to search for alt text without a tag for it?

That would only matter if anyone searched for the tag. The majority of searches are BrokenEagleBot and GoogleBot, of the remaining 28 searches in the last 7 days (an insignificant amount) only 4 are not from this thread. In any case, given that it's being populated by bot, you can just search for '{image text}' in the commentary page, we don't need a special tag just for this any more than we need a tag for commentaries coming from pixiv.

If you don't want to approve it, then just say so and downvote the BUR. We can let one of the other Admins evaluate the BUR objectively and approve it or not.

Edit:

Anyways, it's also used by BrokenEagleBot to avoid processing the same post twice by accident. So there's also that.

If you want to debate the utility of the commentary tags (of which there are many, not just this one), start a new thread.

For what it's worth, I didn't know about alt text until now, so it's at least useful for spreading awareness.

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