Should we allow AI art?

Talulah said:

They both disappear outright. It depends on whether or not you have 'show deleted' setting enabled or where you're viewing. Recent posts on your user profile will always be shown even if deleted. And I agree the situation is shitty and our current solution is not sufficient (and will just get worse).

I've resorted to adding the blacklist "status:deleted" to mine to prevent them from showing. They're "deleted" in the sense that they're hidden from the listing, but they also increment the deleted counter. I've heard in some cases, some posts are hard deleted. Either they should 1) hard delete posts and NOT have them count against users, or 2) make it so that they don't show up in my recent uploads and again, NOT count against users. Neither appear tricky to implement, and it seems unfair to penalise people who accidentally upload them, especially if the AI-generated stuff is hard to differentiate from legitimate art to begin with.

AI-generated posts aren't permanently deleted because if we did, we couldn't prevent them from being uploaded again in the future. We also need the ability to undelete posts if we make a mistake.

Made sense. It feels, souless despite the quality.

personally glad they banned AI generated tag. This is a good thing. stable diffuser is an absolutely incredible; powerful tool, but it will be abused. way too many AI generated artworks will flood the community, and it will cause more damage in the long run. the AI generator itself is brilliant and i'm glad it exists, but it will lead to many fake artists & forgery as a result, and i'm sure talented, genuine artists who put in the time & effort deserve their place in the spotlight instead. I hope AI never replaces genuinely skilled & talented real human artists

Question: Are ai-generated stuff touched up with Photoshop allowed here or should they go to AIbooru?

crouchmediocre said:

Question: Are ai-generated stuff touched up with Photoshop allowed here or should they go to AIbooru?

Ai-generated with third-party edit is an even worse combination.

mongirlfan said:

Ai-generated with third-party edit is an even worse combination.

I think they were referring to ai-assisted art.

blindVigil said:

I think they were referring to ai-assisted art.

I thought it might be ai-assisted art but the thing I found is probably third-party edit. That tells me all I need to know.

blindVigil said:

I think they were referring to ai-assisted art.

It seemed to me as an ai-generated art with a few adjustments on photoshop, which isn't that different from typical ai-generated stuff, and considering our current situation, is better to be avoided and uploaded on AIbooru instead.

mongirlfan said:

It seemed to me as an ai-generated art with a few adjustments on photoshop, which isn't that different from typical ai-generated stuff, and considering our current situation, is better to be avoided and uploaded on AIbooru instead.

Hosting AI-generated images really has no bearing on our current issues. I actually wouldn't mind ai-generated art where a skilled artist cleaned up all the mistakes, so it looked like a proper human made piece. That's why ai-assisted is borderline and not prohibited. It can actually look good.

I have noticed it's harder to discern if something is AI or not in order to upload it.

Twice now I've come across something that I felt like uploading, only to stop and go "Wait, this could be AI generated..."

This feels like a policy that is probably going to have to be abandoned at some point, as AI art becomes less and less easy to distinguish from the normal kind. When that time will come, who can say - I feel as though AI art has advanced about a decade in the course of the past couple of months, after all. It isn't yet, though.

I haven't read the entirety of this thread, but I've grown to an idea that for AI-generated content (and for people who run AI art) in the vein of Stable Diffusion and its derivatives should have it's own tag "group" solely for the purpose of categorization. I'm not sure on the exact terminology here but what I mean is like how the tags on the left-hand panel are listed in the order of "Artists", "Copyright", "General" etc. I'd propose giving it's own "AI-generation" group smack-dab on the top, so other viewers can see that immediately. Being able to tell apart AI-generation from the handmade is gonna be the real battle in the future.

Stable Diffusion-works may not be worthy of the same pedigree of the actual handmade art it practically steals in my opinion, but I won't go as far as to say it shouldn't exist on Danbooru. That's just extreme for no practical reason. However, just like someone said earlier, you're gonna get some shady sour apples that don't disclose how they "made" their piece, meanwhile AI capabilities can only improve. I think for artists, they can get around this by selling their legitimacy through art streams on Twitch but that's another matter entirely.

Geneaux said:

I haven't read the entirety of this thread, but I've grown to an idea that for AI-generated content (and for people who run AI art) in the vein of Stable Diffusion and its derivatives should have it's own tag "group" solely for the purpose of categorization. I'm not sure on the exact terminology here but what I mean is like how the tags on the left-hand panel are listed in the order of "Artists", "Copyright", "General" etc. I'd propose giving it's own "AI-generation" group smack-dab on the top, so other viewers can see that immediately. Being able to tell apart AI-generation from the handmade is gonna be the real battle in the future.

AIbooru already exists for that purpose.

No, we shouldn't. Most of it looks like shit.

I'm also in full agreement that it shouldn't be on this website. A lot of it looks like complete garbage and even if it doesn't, it's still plagiarizing someone's else's artworks

Shikkun said:

I'm also in full agreement that it shouldn't be on this website. A lot of it looks like complete garbage and even if it doesn't, it's still plagiarizing someone's else's artworks

I agree. However will people be able to tell if it's AI or not eventually? Current artifacts that give it away will decrease overtime. Right now it's easy for the most part.

aphex said:

I agree. However will people be able to tell if it's AI or not eventually? Current artifacts that give it away will decrease overtime. Right now it's easy for the most part.

Sorry for being clueless, but what *are* the tells that give it away? So far, I've been looking for bad hands or screwed up eyes/nipples, but it sounds like there are more.

EDIT: Also, how do people identify AI-assisted ones?

The two I've just tagged had some weird looking filename.

E.g.

file://nsfw，medium breasts,maid,torn clothes,pubic tattoo,on carpet,cum on facial s-4013965781.png

file://masterpiece,umamusume, eishin flash (umamusume),blue eyes, bob hair ,sitting ,huge breasts,black sweater,dress, {white thighhighs},looking away, blush, sweatdrop, ribbed sweate s-3309017641_output.png

That might be one way. Check the tag history if someone's changed it to try and sneak it past.