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aliasing Nagant Revolver to M1895

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I think aliasing this is needless. As it stands right now for GFL chartag names, we currently lean towards what it was on CN/TW/KR originally (so we have HK416 as opposed to just 416, G11 as opposed to Gr G11, Type 100 as opposed to 100 Shiki, etc.), a decision made back during the big Apostrophe tag update. The reason why is because EN names consist of a mix of accurate names (aligning with CN), slightly fudged names (to avoid copyright issues, ala the use of Gr on select H&K guns), or completely fudged names for understandable reasons ('Type XXX' is used for Chinese guns, so they had to use 'XXX Shiki' for Japanese guns, as one example).

Additionally, she isn't exclusively referred to as M1895 in-game either. Using the GFL Cutscene Interpreter, we can see that the only time she's exclusively referred to as "M1895" is in her own Neural Upgrade story. In her appearance in Midnight 3, she's almost exclusively referred to as just Nagant, and most in the community also generally just refer to her as Nagant, whether it be GamePress, the IOP Wiki, etc.

We do have precedent for aliasing the EN name to the existing chartag, such as in topic #21940, which aliased SAA to Colt Revolver; so I'd support a reverse alias.

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  • I disagree with that notion that we should lean towards what was on CN. Unless the names align on both servers, we should be using the EN names instead. The developers had chosen to use those names as the official translation for EN and it is what most players, and as an extension, most people are going to be experienced with. While I can understand dropping "Company" names. With examples like Type 100 the name isn't fudged in fact they are accurate, they just decided to not translate the Japanese word for Type.

    Not only have you proven that M1895 can be valid suggestion from inside the game, official EN media posts also refer to as such.

    As for aliasing SAA to Colt Revolver, that opposite should have happened.

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  • Damian0358 said:

    Additionally, she isn't exclusively referred to as M1895 in-game either. Using the GFL Cutscene Interpreter, we can see that the only time she's exclusively referred to as "M1895" is in her own Neural Upgrade story. In her appearance in Midnight 3, she's almost exclusively referred to as just Nagant, and most in the community also generally just refer to her as Nagant, whether it be GamePress, the IOP Wiki, etc.

    I find what you said a bit disingenuous. Looking back into the story and using the GFInterpreter, M1895 get referred by her model name 12 times. 11 during her mod, once during Mosin's and if you include her full name, Nagant M1895, 2 extra times during Midnight 3. Which is an interesting tidbit that you mention Midnight 3 because when they call her Nagant, they're calling her by her nickname rather than just saying her fullname. Counting from the GF Interpreter, she also gets exclusively referred as Nagant 7 times, 6 during the Midnight chapters, once during the Division collab. Which again, is a nickname derived from Nagant M1895. So there is precedent for her to be called nagant_m1895 or just m1895 but none for nagant_revolver.

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