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A typical anime-styled artwork often has thin and clean lines. However, some artists take another approach: producing works with rough lines and hasty shading that look like sketches despite being finished illustrations.
Some examples:
post #8756984
post #7704360
post #7400837
post #7350929
post #9026745
So should we create a new tag for them?
who is gonna search for something this ubiquitous + who is gonna want to bother remembering to tag that
filtering by clean lines / rough lines is as simple as just filtering by different specific artists, bc most artists usually stick to one style or the other
Updated by throne spl
c_spl said:
literally who is gonna search for something this ubiquitous + literally who is gonna want to bother remembering to tag that
filtering by clean lines / rough lines is as simple as just filtering by different specific artists, bc most artists usually stick to one style or the other
This can be said for just about any taggable concept.
FWIW we do have no lineart, so I'd iomagine this would operate similarly.
Hillside_Moose said:
Well, I want a new tag so that the tags sketch and unfinished won't get misused, just like these posts:
post #9047796
post #9048014
post #9046230
post #9046221
From what I can observe, they are not sketches, but just how the artists draw normally. Yet they are tagged sketch.
ANON_TOKYO said:
This can be said for just about any taggable concept.
FWIW we do have no lineart, so I'd iomagine this would operate similarly.
Yeah it's like that.
Hillside_Moose said:
This isn't really comparable since this does actually relate to artstyle, which is usually taggable.
ANON_TOKYO said:
This isn't really comparable since this does actually relate to artstyle, which is usually taggable.
I'll quote the pertinent paragraphs, since it seems people would rather cherry-pick certain things just to dismiss the entire argument.
evazion said:
There's this common attitude among taggers that tagging is about listing every tiny detail of an image, and that more tags is always better. I completely disagree with this. Most of our time is spent tagging meaningless details that nobody actually searches for, while ignoring important things people that do want to search for.
[...]We'd rather content ourselves with tagging things like this, because it's easy and it satisfies our autistic urges to identify every little detail and put them into neat little categories, than try to figure out what the post is really about, because that is hard and it requires critical thinking and it's not always clear-cut.
Yeah, like... the "rough linework" to me in these is like... not really a noticeable thing? They're barely "sketchy". The three posts you linked by sawaya (mizukazu) technically have loose lineart, but not unless you squint. The two by gold can are maybe slightly more visibly sketchy, but they have totally different shading styles so they don't feel like the same artstyle. IDK, if these are your examples of artwork with "rough lines" and "hasty shading" (none of these seem to have hasty shading...?) this concept doesn't really seem like a viable tag.
i would not describe an artstyle choice to be a tiny detail. moreover, we have many more tags that describe stylistic choices, such as:
and so on. the proposed tag would bridge the gap between sketch and fully rendered artwork (no tag)
there is a rather natural difference in lineart between post #8937075 or post #9043300 and post #9017213 or post #9004390
evazion has also said (emphasis mine):
like, think about this. we're an art site that has no idea how to describe art styles or the way things are drawn
we don't even have the vocabulary for it
we're an art site that doesn't know the first thing about art
it's like a music site that has no concept of different music genres
they only know how to categorize songs by which instruments are in them
I'm arguing we should think a lot more about the kinds of searches people actually want to do and cater towards that
the main use case most tagging caters towards is people trying to recall specific posts
like, "what if I'm trying to find a specific post and the only thing I remember is it has a green_hat and a yellow_shirt"
that use case exists, but it's not the main way people use danbooru
pose, composition, art style, lighting, framing
c_spl said:
who is gonna search for something this ubiquitous + who is gonna want to bother remembering to tag that
filtering by clean lines / rough lines is as simple as just filtering by different specific artists, bc most artists usually stick to one style or the other
no, check kyuusui_gakari changed his artstyle.
and some artists just finnish their arts for some mood
anyway, I hardly agree with this. We need 'rough line' tag.
another example : post #9447252
Previous discussion: topic #14057 (kind of)
I think a rough_lineart tag for a concept like "rough lines, but not a sketch / not unfinished" would make sense for the examples that OP mentions (which don't look like sketches). This is a concept that is also present outside of digital art, take a look at Conrad Roset. Some examples where I default to sketch since there is no better alternative:
However, is not always easy to differentiate finished from unfinished. Not everyone will agree that my last example is finished artwork.
Btw, rough is already aliased to sketch, maybe we should just use sketch instead or reverse the alias (i.e. sketch -> rough).
