I'm not sure if this will even take off... If people think this is a bad idea, then go ahead and lock this topic.
What I want is a forum topic to basically call attention to various pools and consider their contents for deletion for one of the following reasons:
1) Poor average quality, especially concerning online comics 2) Full doujin uploads 3) Sample uploads, which are generally lower quality and only contain small portions of entire doujins.
After all Danbooru's all about quality of art, or if not that, at least some reasonably good content.
Seriously, I'm really doubting about this one, why do people say that uploading doujinshi are illegal but according to the help:home Danbooru is a repository of high-quality anime-style art and doujinshi.
Really I'm surely having a lot of troubles understanding this, even though I already have read the Doujin Rules Forum.
And also it seems that those doujinshi haven't disobeying the quality requirements of the danbooru (and not scanlated).
Forgive me for my naivety but I really eager to know what would be the final decision about this, I am planning to upload another one.
Also I don't care if my previous jobs would end up to none, but I make sure to myself that I never violate anything around here...
1. If the art is not great there has to be some shtick (pre translation unless you can read japanese) that draws you in. Fairly subjective but important.
2. While not against the rules there were never many uploads that were "scans". It is something that might be an issue now. ie the "not trying to steal your work" which scans are.
3. Samples must die, and die a horrible death in a (double deletion) fire.
It has been discussed before and ignored by the top mods but it really is something that needs to be addressed one way or the other.
As for the existing posts I thought grandfathering (when discussing it under pyrolight) would be a good solution and double deletion for samples.
With DB2 approaching I think it might be a good time to redo da rules in general.
One other way to think of it is that if doujin do get the okay, the site could potentially get flooded with the stuff... And the average member searching for art for certain characters or something wouldn't exactly like seeing that. Besides, they're almost always easily available elsewhere, and with easier methods of download.
We don't have any rules specifically against samples, and I don't think we should. If the images are good and interesting enough on their own (and IMO, this pool is), then they should stay.
While I support this notion, given how the discussion in that other thread turned out, deleting them will only cause further uproars worse than when a single image is flagged for deletion.
For me, discouraging doujins that aren't publicly available might just help giving DB a better image, when it's pretty much a taboo right now for those artists. (Try typing out a danbooru link in pixiv, for example.)
Edit: Oh, and here's an extra note: When asked whether if we could "preserve" his works in the database that is DB, an artist told me he wanted to have nothing to do with unauthorized reproductions.
(on topic) Is it really so much of a problem though? It's not too much problem to wade through two or three pages of doujin work (if it was uploaded all at once), and the amount that is being uploaded isn't so much that it's drowning out all the other posts, in my opinion.
I'm not saying to ignore the rules, and it's not a bad idea to think about reevaluating some of the rules with the advent of Danbooru 2, but I don't really think it's an issue as of now.
*Shrug* Ah well, it was worth a shot. Just wanted to toss this out there and see if it gets a positive response. I'm just annoyed by mediocre series of comics that gets uploaded practically every day (especially those with the intent of coercing translations), but if it doesn't bother others much then I'll leave it be.
It might just be because C80 was only a month ago and there are still doujins and stuff being fished out and put here. The amount should die down in a little I think.
Shintear said: It might just be because C80 was only a month ago and there are still doujins and stuff being fished out and put here. The amount should die down in a little I think.
I would like to believe so, but apparently it's more like there are those who are too desperate enough for translations that they even get older doujinshi that are scanlated into chinese (Which is obviously frowned upon here).
Of course, given how widely used this tag is nowadays, I'll just do myself a favor to tag them all up and call it a day...
(on topic) Is it really so much of a problem though? It's not too much problem to wade through two or three pages of doujin work (if it was uploaded all at once), and the amount that is being uploaded isn't so much that it's drowning out all the other posts, in my opinion.
I don't think it is as much that is that it seems a bit two faced policy wise to go one about how we respect an artists rights/works (various policies) then allow scans.
Scans (I admit I read some of the more interesting ones) are theft and really give us a bad image.
The rather massive increase lately of uploaded scans is making it worse.
I'm not saying to ignore the rules, and it's not a bad idea to think about reevaluating some of the rules with the advent of Danbooru 2, but I don't really think it's an issue as of now.
Nip it in the bud and get the ball rolling. Pretty much any subject these days needs at least 3-4 topics and 6 months to even get past the first phase.
I'm still with ่ๆ (I think that's who it was) on the idea that we should try to engage artists more positively regarding the value these translations and structured metadata offers. Why must we take such an overtly defeatist stance on what are often works of copyright infringement in their own right? I'm aware that many artists are inwardly tortured and feel the need to commit digital suicide at a moment's notice, but I don't think it needs to be that way.
So if the Doujinshi is posted legally at a certain site (not scanlated, and qualify for the quality policy) and as long as we can able to provide the link back to that site, the doujin is a okay, I have a question... can we also upload as a part of the doujin the remarks page of the artist?
EDIT: Oh, and if by means of sites, those doujin publishing sites that legally publish doujinshi.
