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touhou animalization

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S1eth

character_(animal) only makes sense for the characters which are canonically (animal) and are assumed to be able to switch between animal and human form. (or have images showing their past before they turned into their humanoid form)

In other words, we should nuke these tags:
hong_meiling_(dragon)
kamishirasawa keine (cow)
moriya suwako (frog)
yasaka kanako (snake)
saigyouji_yuyuko_(cow)
edit: fujiwara_no_mokou_(phoenix)

We should also decide whether we should use just (bird) or the more specific type for the characters:
mystia_lorelei_(bird) (sparrow)
reiuji_utsuho_(bird) (crow) or (raven) 地獄鴉
shameimaru_aya_(crow) (crow) or (raven) 鴉天狗 (same kanji)
himekaidou_hatata_(crow) (crow) or (raven) 鴉天狗 (same kanji)

Since many artists draw the animal forms of the characters different from what they should actually look like (post #982735), I guess (bird) is ok.

Momiji is apparently based on the original Chinese term tiāngoǔ (Wade-Giles:T'ien kou; 天狗; "celestial dog") (same kanji as tengu). Therefore, she would not turn into a crow. Actually, I don't know of any stories where tengu transform.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiangou :
The tengu of japanese folklore was derived from the tiāngoǔ. The tengu is usually depicted as a bird, or man with a long nose and other bird-like characteristics, while the tiāngoǔ is a dog.

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ghostrigger

here's the character_(animal) tags that appeared in post #1060216

chen_(cat)
futatsuiwa_mamizou_(tanuki)
himekaidou_hatate_(crow)
hong_meiling_(dragon)
inaba_tewi_(bunny)
inubashiri_momiji_(wolf)
kaenbyou_rin_(cat)
kamishirasawa_keine_(cow)
moriya_suwako_(frog)
mystia_lorelei_(bird)
nazrin_(mouse)
reisen_udongein_inaba_(bunny)
shameimaru_aya_(crow)
toramaru_shou_(tiger)
yakumo_ran_(fox)
yasaka_kanako_(snake)

S1eth raised some points worth considering and i'm in favor of trimming down the tags before they become filled with posts. however, i'm not sure how are we going to convince other taggers not to create such future non-canon character_(animal) tags especially in similar situation like this where the characters in animal forms are bunched together. it's more like "tag what you see" and taking cue from other (canon) character_(animal) tags present in the image.

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S1eth

We cannot force users to follow the forum or read the wikis. Maybe they don't even know about the animalization tag or don't know why we created the kaenbyou_rin_(cat) tag. Unless they create new wikis, it's easy enough to just delete all the tags they added.

What's even worse is that the users who add and create the new character_(animal) tag DON'T EVEN TAG THE ANIMALS.
I just added all these animals to post #1060216:
+bird +bunny +cat +crow +fox +frog +mouse +snake +sparrow +tanuki +tiger +wolf

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Mysterio006

I'm fine with removing some of those odd ones. It's my fault for adding some of those and getting the ball rolling, I suppose. There's a good number that aren't supported by canon but are fairly common on pixiv though... Such as mystia_lorelei_(bird). I suppose that if you take into account their youkai origins then it's plausible enough.

Probably get rid off:

hong_meiling_(dragon)
kamishirasawa_keine_(cow)
moriya_suwako_(frog)
yasaka_kanako_(snake)

These are iffy, since they do correspond to their origins...
futatsuiwa_mamizou_(tanuki)
himekaidou_hatate_(crow)
nazrin_(mouse)
reisen_udongein_inaba_(bunny)
toramaru_shou_(tiger)

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bitofhope

S1eth said:

Would anyone mind if I nuked this tag now?
BTW, would a character gaining dragon features (horns/antlers) count for kemonomimi_mode?

I wouldn't. If there was a consistent dragonic design for her (official or fanmade) tagging it would make sense but all the dragonizations look different depending on the artist.

For the second one, I'd say that counts.

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Schrobby

budoka_azathoth said:

I wouldn't. If there was a consistent dragonic design for her (official or fanmade) tagging it would make sense but all the dragonizations look different depending on the artist.

For the second one, I'd say that counts.

I'd be surprised if it'd be consistent. Different artists have different styles. That said I'm for keeping the tag, it's quite distinct from the normal appearance.
I guess Kemonomimi applies. Those are animal features, even though it's a mythical animal.

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Lannihan

I agree with S1eth, that tag is just a redundancy from:

dragon_girl & hong_meiling: This is more general because the girl, in this case hong_meiling, is an anthropomorphic dragon.

Kemonomimi_mode & hong_meiling: Implies just some features, like antlers or dragon_tail, and nothing more.

Maybe, for Meiling dragon's form, and the others characters of Touhou, we could create the tag: animalization_(touhou), just for facilitate the search of the character, in her respective animal form.

For example:

hong_meiling & animalization_(touhou)
inubarashi_momiji & animalization_(touhou)

Etc...

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Lannihan

Schrobby said:

Animalization is for when a character is depicted as an animal, not when there are just some animal features like ears, horns or tails.

Excuse me if I miss something, but the idea it's to have general and specific tags, i'll explain it in this form:

Character + animalization OK, Ex.

Character + animal_girl/boy (whatever) OK, Ex.

Character + some characteristics (Kemonomimi_mode), from a certain animal (Horns/tails/altners/body parts, ears, etc), Ex: dragon_tail tag. OK, Ex.

That´s the idea, instead of "specific_character_(add animal)", who says nothing by its own, specially for another characters from another series/plays/anime, who are characterized by the same animal. Create specific tags by copyright, it's unnecessary if we have tags like characters, "animalization", "animal_girl/boy" and/or "Kemonomimi_mode" (addying the specific tails and ears type)

PD: It's strange that Daanboru doesn´t have the fox_girl tag, since has cat_girl, dragon_girl or bunny_girl.

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