Looks like netorare to me

Krugger said:
Looks like netorare to me

It doesn't have to be be netorare, that could be a husband and wife (or boyfriend and girlfriend) having a quickie at her (or his) sister or friends place, they may have been invited over for dinner.

Edit: I stand corrected, of COURSE its netorare, as if two people fooling around with someone in the background could be ANYTHING else. (apologies in advance to Krugger and Alpha, not being sarcastic towards you, just towards the general shift in this direction of quite a bit of hentai these days...)

DugFin said:
It doesn't have to be be netorare, that could be a husband and wife (or boyfriend and girlfriend) having a quickie at her (or his) sister or friends place, they may have been invited over for dinner.

Pixiv tags say NTR, so I'd go with that. Tagged it as such for now.

DugFin said:
Edit: I stand corrected, of COURSE its netorare, as if two people fooling around with someone in the background could be ANYTHING else. (apologies in advance to Krugger and Alpha, not being sarcastic towards you, just towards the general shift in this direction of quite a bit of hentai these days...)

Have to agree with you.. it's kind of annoying when you realize that the two people just got married in a hentai, and some random "brother-in-law" or something of the like jumps in and creams all over her. Personally, netorare bothers me deeply.

I'm not sure what people find arousing in it.. I can understand the sort of rush that you could get, but subjecting one-self to that isn't my cup of tea.

Tagged "imouto" and "kinshinsoukan" (incest) on Pixiv. Not sure whether to tag it as such or not.

dentalapex said:

Wall of text. (sorry, didn't want to repost all that just to reply).

That makes sense, honestly I myself have a love/hate relationship with NTR.
I don't mind netori at all, not just because the protag is stealing (though I'll admit that double standard is there), but because its usually not blackmail/rape scenarios. As for plain NTR itself, my complaints are the same as most (I think) stale stories with weak-willed people who should probably deal with their self-esteem issues before entering relationships. As much as I'm ragging on it, there is one thing I do like about NTR, few hentai show women enjoying sex as much as the NTR genre does (in my opinion of course). It doesn't hurt that a LOT of good artists are into this genre now.

The women look like they're enjoying the sex because they know its wrong and are cheating. The women in those NTR doujins get off on cheating at least that's how the artist makes them. They are usually mind broken or drugged and just want the sex and nothing else. Also I disagree with you saying the women enjoy the sex more in NTR doujins. The doujins I see all of which aren't NTR show women enjoying the sex without being drugged or cheating. That IMO is really enjoying it since there's no getting off to cheating or drugs. Then again I'm not a fan of NTR in the slightest but just wanted to give my 2 cents on NTR.

Skylander said:
Some good points

Sorry, seems like I worded it wrong, what I meant was strictly from an art perspective, not story (like my post says, I find most NTR stories stale and boring). Thats why I said show women enjoying, rather than have women enjoying. I agree with your other points honestly, usually when I read an NTR doujin I ignore the story (or just read it and laugh at how ridiculous it is) and just read for the artwork. I do honestly prefer vanilla myself (especially of the NaPaTa variety).

the difference between mere cheating and NTR is the emphasis on the girl being "stolen" away and the implication of the other victim (the guy/girl who had the girl) finding out.

There seems to be a popular subtype of NTR where Yuri couples are the targets, possibly as a spiteful answer to how prominent yuri has beecome in some series.

This looks more like normal cheating to me.

This is NOT NTR, someone on Pixiv must have mistagged it. The characters depicted are brother and sister, and the woman cooking in the background is their mother.

EDIT: This comment is misguided, see the discussion below.

HeadPatter said:

This is NOT NTR, someone on Pixiv must have mistagged it. The characters depicted are brother and sister, and the woman cooking in the background is their mother.

@HeadPatter What made you think it's not NTR and that the woman is their mother? The brother said he's married so I would think the assumption is that that's the wife in the background. The title of this picture is even "Netori Sister", which is basically NTR. At the very least, this is still cheating.

zaregoto said:

@HeadPatter What made you think it's not NTR and that the woman is their mother? The brother said he's married so I would think the assumption is that that's the wife in the background. The title of this picture is even "Netori Sister", which is basically NTR. At the very least, this is still cheating.

Thanks for taking the time to reply @zaregoto!

I based my assumption on Pepe's doujinshis about the two. They have a conversation in which she makes known her repulsion towards the idea of cheating play or being with another man. I guess I just projected the same sentiment onto the brother.
Knowing their story and the fact that their relationship started when they were both young and (again I assume, but it seems very likely) living with their parents, situations like the one depicted here would not be out of the ordinary. Plus they are shown to have numerous morning interactions and a wife is never mentioned (but perhaps the situation here is from much later in their life). It just seemed very out of character for the brother who says stuff like "I won't allow you to [be with another man]! I won't let even a single finger of anyone else touch you!" to then go marry someone and cheat.

That being said, the description to the picture here (that I only now Google translated for the first time) leaves no room for discussion. Plus it's totally unwarranted to assume that since he (once?) didn't want her to be with others that he would apply the same standard to himself. Maybe he's just a selfish prick – scratch the maybe, I mean we know what he did to start the whole thing off.

It hurts my fragile vanillafag feelings to admit that, but the pic does indeed need cheating tags, and maybe ntr too.

I see that you readded them in, so I don't have to do that. Thanks for that, and (a very salty and butthurt) thanks for disillusioning me. Sorry for the wall of text and have a nice day!

HeadPatter said:

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@HeadPatter If you're talking about ruuko-san, that's a different pair of siblings. If there's no paid reward I don't know about, this picture and this doujin are the only instances of these two.

zaregoto said:

@HeadPatter If you're talking about ruuko-san, that's a different pair of siblings. If there's no paid reward I don't know about, this picture and this doujin are the only instances of these two.

Wait WHAT @zaregoto !?

How do you know the doujin you linked and this picture aren't Ruuko and her brother? I mean her hair and eyes have slightly different colors in the pictures, but in the doujin she looks just like I imagine a young Ruuko would. I was certain the doujin was meant as a prequel to her story.

Is there some official info from the author that these are different people? Sorry to still bother you but I'm very invested at this point.

HeadPatter said:

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@HeadPatter Even if she looks like what you imagine Ruuko would look like when she's young, the fact is this girl currently and Ruuko currently look nothing alike. I guess a more concrete evidence would be all of Ruuko's pics are tagged with Ruuko-san in pixiv by the artist himself. Pics with this girl doesn't have Ruuko-san tagged.

zaregoto said:

@HeadPatter Even if she looks like what you imagine Ruuko would look like when she's young, the fact is this girl currently and Ruuko currently look nothing alike. I guess a more concrete evidence would be all of Ruuko's pics are tagged with Ruuko-san in pixiv by the artist himself. Pics with this girl doesn't have Ruuko-san tagged.

@zaregoto you are absolutely right about the pictures, good catch! I'm not very perceptive, you see. But I'm still not sure about the doujin. Does he upload doujinshi on his Twitter as well? If so, then the upload missing the Ruuko-san tag would be compelling evidence, but even then you could say it's just deliberately ambiguous...

Nevermind, just went through all the Ruuko-san doujins and her brother is never shown wearing glasses, neither when they are adults nor in the extra page where they are much younger and Ruuko is wearing a school uniform https://nhentai.net/g/193940/15/

This I think proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that, as you mentioned earlier, the 2 pictures here and the doujinshi in question are not Ruuko-san and her brother.

That's pretty huge for me since I adore the Ruuko-san doujins and the "prequel" was for me a filthy stain on an otherwise spotless story.

For what it's worth, you made a stranger's evening. Thanks again!