We’ll, I guess you’re right... it wasn’t their fault for being threatened as “antagonists”... its was actually the writers who done it... (and perhaps Zun too...?)
We’ll, I guess you’re right... it wasn’t their fault for being threatened as “antagonists”... its was actually the writers who done it... (and perhaps Zun too...?)
ZUN does all the writing though.
That aside I agree that people hate on them too much. I kinda heard about the Watatsuki before reading SSiB so I had a particular impression of them, but when I do sit down and read it I find that they're not as bad as most people make them to be. The whole complaints about Yorihime winning against Reimu and co. for example is a lot sillier in hindsight considering that's the whole point of a spellcard duel.
Bottom line is they're just a victim of short-tempered fanbase. As a character they're more or less fine. Although some might find their holier-than-thou attitude irritating.
That aside I agree that people hate on them too much. I kinda heard about the Watatsuki before reading SSiB so I had a particular impression of them, but when I do sit down and read it I find that they're not as bad as most people make them to be. The whole complaints about Yorihime winning against Reimu and co. for example is a lot sillier in hindsight considering that's the whole point of a spellcard duel.
Bottom line is they're just a victim of short-tempered fanbase. As a character they're more or less fine. Although some might find their holier-than-thou attitude irritating.
Well, I guess you’re also right about that... specially about the danmaku battle, since I Yori didn’t have any idea what a “spellcard rule” is, and won without knowing it, right?
Well, I guess you’re also right about that... specially about the danmaku battle, since I Yori didn’t have any idea what a “spellcard rule” is, and won without knowing it, right?
Nope, Yorihime won fair and square. She had no obligation to follow the spellcard rules, considering the group was literally invading the moon and the spellcard rules are a Gensokyo thing, but allowed Reimu to explain them to her and followed them properly anyway.
Reimu and Marisa weren't even taking the whole situation seriously, it was all a game to them, but Yori went all out and beat them fair and square, even if her abilities were "OP".
Not even mentioning that the whole thing was one big trick by Yukari, to distract the sisters while Yuyuko stole some of their liquor.
Nope, Yorihime won fair and square. She had no obligation to follow the spellcard rules, considering the group was literally invading the moon and the spellcard rules are a Gensokyo thing, but allowed Reimu to explain them to her and followed them properly anyway.
Reimu and Marisa weren't even taking the whole situation seriously, it was all a game to them, but Yori went all out and beat them fair and square, even if her abilities were "OP".
Not even mentioning that the whole thing was one big trick by Yukari, to distract the sisters while Yuyuko stole some of their liquor.
Oh, ok- wait... did you say “to steal the liquor”?... also how did they distracted Toyohime exactly..?
Oh, ok- wait... did you say “to steal the liquor”?... also how did they distracted Toyohime exactly..?
IIRC, their reasoning was by stealing and drinking their alcohol, they could never have it back for obvious reasons. The biggest disappointment is that Youmu's MGS-style theft of the alcohol occurs largely off-screen.
Oh, ok- wait... did you say “to steal the liquor”?... also how did they distracted Toyohime exactly..?
Yukari allowed herself and Ran to be captured by Toyohime in Gensokyo, and by leaving a glove behind which forced Yukari's gap to remain open and for Yuyuko to use it. Being a ghost, Yuyuko is a pure being and thus undetectable by the Lunarians.
IIRC, their reasoning was by stealing and drinking their alcohol, they could never have it back for obvious reasons. The biggest disappointment is that Youmu's MGS-style theft of the alcohol occurs largely off-screen.
Thus the second Genso-Lunar War was won. Casualties: one precious jar filled with Lunarian sake and one very shaken Eirin.
IIRC, their reasoning was by stealing and drinking their alcohol, they could never have it back for obvious reasons. The biggest disappointment is that Youmu's MGS-style theft of the alcohol occurs largely off-screen.
Oh, ok... soo it would have been cool to see Youmu in action too, since, well... since she’s half-ghost, I wonder how well would have been with the security around the area..?
Xanalikesthings said:
Yukari allowed herself and Ran to be captured by Toyohime in Gensokyo, and by leaving a glove behind which forced Yukari's gap to remain open and for Yuyuko to use it. Being a ghost, Yuyuko is a pure being and thus undetectable by the Lunarians.
Soo, while Yukari was “faking” her defeat, soo she would make Reimu and co fight Yori and the rest of the force, soo for Yuyu to get some sake..?.. she could have just try to found a weak spot for the Lunarians while they’re already inside finding the sake though!... or at the very least, a souvenir...
This makes me wonder, would Toyo and Yori return for as characters for another kind of canon works? Whether is a manga, or a novel, or as Phantasm stage bosses in a future game in which its has the protagonists returning to the moon like in LoLK?
You know, for all of your questions, I honestly think it's better if you read the print works yourself instead of asking for summary.
As for your last question, no one knows; ZUN does what he does. Even Flan, for all of her popularity, appears very scarcely in canon.
Oh, ok... I guess I should try... and Also found that there’s like 250 something of the,... plus There’s also the strange creators of the Outside worlds... and probably more works I haven’t seen... (and by 250 works, i meant of tittles of the mangas in each works... since there’s 12 works (11 ideas you discount the “fanmade” collection which one of the works is on...)
Also, at least Flandre manage to appear in Cheating Satori manga...