Well, not THAT bad of an ending, I guess.

Removing the 1boy tag, she's just a reverse-trap.

mt6648 said:

Well, not THAT bad of an ending, I guess.

If you don't mind being rooted in place in one spot of a strange greenhouse for the rest of your now-ageless life... (And there's the distinct possibility that whoever planted that flower may not be the most desirable "husband" if they had to go to the trouble of tricking a pair of girls into his greenhouse to force them into becoming monsters against their will...)

NWSiaCB said:

Removing the 1boy tag, she's just a reverse-trap.

Where are you getting that idea from? The source seems to disagree, and there's nothing really to support that in the image itself.

Avalanche said:

Where are you getting that idea from? The source seems to disagree, and there's nothing really to support that in the image itself.

Because MGE male->female transgendering only occurs through a few special monsters, and lilyraune is not one of them.

NWSiaCB said:

Because MGE male->female transgendering only occurs through a few special monsters, and lilyraune is not one of them.

Pay close attention to the chest and you can see that it's a guy at first.

matteste said:

Pay close attention to the chest and you can see that it's a guy at first.

The girls' chest is also featureless.

If that WAS supposed to be a boy, then it's an error, because the artist clearly doesn't understand what MGE is entirely about. The Liliraune has heterosexual sex with men just the same as the standard Alraune does, but with two women in the same flower. (post #1714273)

Transgendering and homosexuality (beyond bisexual women) are basically eradicated in the MGE world. The way MGE deals with homosexual men is to turn them into women, which is what the Alp is. (post #909704) These are the only transgenders in MGE thus far.

NWSiaCB said:

The girls' chest is also featureless.

If that WAS supposed to be a boy, then it's an error, because the artist clearly doesn't understand what MGE is entirely about. The Liliraune has heterosexual sex with men just the same as the standard Alraune does, but with two women in the same flower. (post #1714273)

Transgendering and homosexuality (beyond bisexual women) are basically eradicated in the MGE world. The way MGE deals with homosexual men is to turn them into women, which is what the Alp is. (post #909704) These are the only transgenders in MGE thus far.

the alp is clear but the bones of man can become a female skeleton too.

NWSiaCB said:

If that WAS supposed to be a boy, then it's an error, because the artist clearly doesn't understand what MGE is entirely about.

Sorry, gotta agree with the others on this one. The source points out that this is a TFTG, a Transformation Transgender, work.

You are correct that the MGE page about the Liliraune mentions nothing about transgender-inducing abilities, but neither does it give a direct explanation of what would happen if a heterosexual couple were the first human pair to encounter it - before the Liliraune has assumed its two-female form. It suggests that, in the extremely rare case of the flower being born with only petals, it will take in two human women that are especially close and change them; but it also says that males, too, are drawn to their fragrance and that they will take them in when given the opportunity. Considering the Liliraune is itself a mutation of the Alraune, I can't see why it's not possible for a further mutation to produce transgender effects on captured males.

Call it an error if you wish, but since this is a commission by someone other than the artist for an alternate-universe work, I doubt anyone else will see it that way.

Burudogguu said:

Sorry, gotta agree with the others on this one. The source points out that this is a TFTG, a Transformation Transgender, work.

You are correct that the MGE page about the Liliraune mentions nothing about transgender-inducing abilities, but neither does it give a direct explanation of what would happen if a heterosexual couple were the first human pair to encounter it - before the Liliraune has assumed its two-female form. It suggests that, in the extremely rare case of the flower being born with only petals, it will take in two human women that are especially close and change them; but it also says that males, too, are drawn to their fragrance and that they will take them in when given the opportunity. Considering the Liliraune is itself a mutation of the Alraune, I can't see why it's not possible for a further mutation to produce transgender effects on captured males.

Call it an error if you wish, but since this is a commission by someone other than the artist for an alternate-universe work, I doubt anyone else will see it that way.

Even if it isn't expressly spelled out, it's pretty clear that Liliraune doesn't have transgendering powers. (The purpose is to get two women together with one man, to the point where it even says the Liliraune will reject one of its halves if the two women don't agree on a man.)

The case of a single woman and a man is simple - the liliraune would have the woman and man screw until there was another woman that could be lured in.

IIRC, Transgender Transformation doesn't exist, er, consistently in the MGE-Verse outside of the Alp or Skeleton (so far that we know of) and both of those transformation require Demonic Energy which pretty much only come from the Demon-Type Monster Girls.

According to their entries: the Alp requires starting as an Incubus and having the specific desire to become female or lusting after men, destroying their own Spirit Energy Production, and then absorbing even more Demonic Energy to transform. The Skeleton can be formed from the bones of a male because they're broken down and then made up entirely of Demonic Energy with a bone-theme.

I personally don't care if this comic is canonically correct to the MGE-Verse though.

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So, moving on, is the Suspected-Subject male or female?

Based on the context of the pictures, where the two characters are receiving slightly different methods of conversion, the Suspected-Subject is male.

I mean, really, the Clearly Female character becomes docile by Panel 4. The Suspected-Subject, however, continues to struggle until Panel 8 inserts a lily into their mouth and basically feeds them a copious amount of nectar.

It could be argued that's because one is suppose to represent the stamen and pistil, so the method of conversion therefore needs to be different... but seems to be really grasping at straws since the two bodies only correspond to the stamen and pistil and are functionally the same as far as the Monster Girl is concerned.

We are in agreement. The simplest explanation, outside of analyzing the work itself, is that the artist has stated at the source that the intention was TFTG, and that it was a commission for another person to be drawn this way (ie. non-canon).

well it´s a big problem that monstergirls transform woman into monsters that the number of man for the next generation shrinks dramatic but if they had also the power to transform man into female the situation becomes more worse.

A less-obvious possibility could be 47 XXY or Klinefelter Syndrome in the apparent male. Physically male with two X-chromosomes. IIRC Monster Girl transformation in-universe can heal most ailments, so the plant deactivated or removed the Y-chromosome with Demonic Energy (or Mamomo Mana, which Kenkou prefers).
Just silly scientific conjecture.

astarte952 said:

the alp is clear but the bones of man can become a female skeleton too.

But KC has said that alps can become any type of monster given the right circumstances and alps can look very feminine So the male is an alp.
Also this artists likes tg transformation from the looks of several other things hes done.

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