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  • ID: 1818405
  • Uploader: henmere »
  • Date: over 10 years ago
  • Approver: Not One Of Us »
  • Size: 928 KB .png (1025x1000) »
  • Source: ghostempire.sakura.ne.jp/gallery/pic/500000tclassbattleshipsann.png »
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    henmere
    over 10 years ago
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    See also this Japanese Wikipedia page and CanisD's photobucket.

    • Source page is here.
    • Old/smaller versions: pixiv #42726678 / Seiga #im4062452 (922 x 900 px)

    Updated by henmere over 5 years ago

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    BelchingSpitfire
    over 10 years ago
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    Well, I bet you, the US Navy pilots will have a hard time taking this monster down if it was built

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    NWSiaCB
    over 10 years ago
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    MajorAmiruddin said:

    Well, I bet you, the US Navy pilots will have a hard time taking this monster down if it was built

    Hardly.

    A monster 7 times the mass of the Yamato, the ship too huge to actually use in battle, so she got the nickname "Hotel Yamato"? Yeah, that sort of thing would be target practice at best.

    The war would have been over 2 years sooner had the Japanese been foolish enough to try making one, because they wouldn't have been able to afford to fuel the behemoth or build any supporting ships to go with this monster. The Japanese couldn't build tanks, because they were using all the steel they had just to build Yamato and Musashi. You want to build something 7 times the size of those two? It would have likely been turned into a reef and used as a coastal gun for lack of fuel even sooner than what remnants of the Japanese BBs were grounded already. The American navy could have simply sailed around it. (That's assuming, considering the Japanese propensity for design flaws, that the thing didn't just sink under its own weight when its own mass warped the hull or it wasn't sunk by a single torpedo from Albacore or something.)

    When they sank the Yamato, they simply strafed the (unprotected) AA gunners (whose guns were nearly useless) dead, and took their time lining up their shots to sink Yamato as surgically as possible to "make up for" the wasted torpedoes they used on Musashi.

    World War II was the war that proved bigger was not necessarily better. The Axis powers, especially, were obsessed with trying to do things like build tanks too large to actually use.

    EDIT: Oh, and here's a site with a good image of it Note that, not being content with NINE 46 cm turrets, (largest ever built, and only Yamato-class used only THREE of them) the guy also glued two aircraft carrier runways onto the side for the giggles.

    Updated by NWSiaCB over 10 years ago

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    Skribulous
    over 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    EDIT: Oh, and here's a site with a good image of it Note that, not being content with NINE 46 cm turrets, (largest ever built, and only Yamato-class used only THREE of them) the guy also glued two aircraft carrier runways onto the side for the giggles.

    Might as well squeeze in 1-2 nuclear power plants and enough thrusters to escape the Earth's gravity, because this... thing... is a goddamn starship.

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    henmere
    over 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    EDIT: Oh, and here's a site with a good image of it

    That image is Fusou Katsumi's fanart for Nakaoka Jun'ichirou's 3-volume fictional war novel series, ”Chou Chou-dokyuu Senkan Tosa ~Koutetsu no Utage~” ("Hyper-Super-Dreadnought Tosa ~The Iron Feast~"). (Nakaoka's novel was inspired by Kaneda's project.)
    The artist's original fanart page is here.

    EDIT: Incidentally, Katsumi is renowned for his own alternative history story, ”Taiyou Teikoku” (Rising Sun Empire).

    Updated by henmere over 10 years ago

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    NWSiaCB
    over 10 years ago
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    Oh, wow, I just realized that the image actually has FIFTEEN 46cm turrets, there's three on the lower decks, under the runways.

    Haha, yeah, this thing is definitely crazier than the "we have no fucking clue what we're doing" capital ship designs of X3. (Where ships were as much as 2.5 km long, (in spite of having only twice the actual cargo space and hull of a ship 1/50th its length and 1/125,000th its volume) and carried flak weapons whose reach was... 2km... and clustered the AA guns at the rear of the ship, so that the front of the ship was completely vulnerable to small craft and torpedoes...)

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    TunerAinee
    over 10 years ago
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    may or may not have inspired for the idea of the Re.

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    henmere
    over 10 years ago
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    FYI, the original illustration in Jun'ichirou's novel can be seen here. The blog's owner, Shishamo, bought the used book to build this 1:770 scale model.

    Updated by henmere over 10 years ago

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    NWSiaCB
    over 10 years ago
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    z905844 said:

    may or may not have inspired for the idea of the Re.

    No, Re is a combination of an Iowa-class and the flat-out need to just make something "harder" for later stages of the game.

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    Also, just for the record, the Yamato's giant cannons were completely impractical against things like aircraft, not only because any sort of fragmentary/incindiary shells they fired were terribly inaccurate, but they would so rock the boat, they'd render all the OTHER guns on the ship totally inaccurate, as well.

    In this, they're literally putting the runways ON TOP OF the impractically huge cannons. As soon as one of those things fired, it would shatter the runway.

    In that model, some of the planes are even parked right on top of the cannons!

    Also, notice how some of the forward-facing turrets are actually partly below the flight decks, so the turrets can't even turn without tearing through the flight deck?

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    cd young
    over 10 years ago
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    I feel kinda sorry for Tosa here, that kit looks amazingly heavy and it probably knocks her off balance badly when she fires anything. :/

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    JohnFreeman
    about 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    Hardly.

    A monster 7 times the mass of the Yamato, the ship too huge to actually use in battle, so she got the nickname "Hotel Yamato"? Yeah, that sort of thing would be target practice at best.

    The war would have been over 2 years sooner had the Japanese been foolish enough to try making one, because they wouldn't have been able to afford to fuel the behemoth or build any supporting ships to go with this monster. The Japanese couldn't build tanks, because they were using all the steel they had just to build Yamato and Musashi. You want to build something 7 times the size of those two? It would have likely been turned into a reef and used as a coastal gun for lack of fuel even sooner than what remnants of the Japanese BBs were grounded already. The American navy could have simply sailed around it. (That's assuming, considering the Japanese propensity for design flaws, that the thing didn't just sink under its own weight when its own mass warped the hull or it wasn't sunk by a single torpedo from Albacore or something.)

    When they sank the Yamato, they simply strafed the (unprotected) AA gunners (whose guns were nearly useless) dead, and took their time lining up their shots to sink Yamato as surgically as possible to "make up for" the wasted torpedoes they used on Musashi.

    World War II was the war that proved bigger was not necessarily better. The Axis powers, especially, were obsessed with trying to do things like build tanks too large to actually use.

    EDIT: Oh, and here's a site with a good image of it Note that, not being content with NINE 46 cm turrets, (largest ever built, and only Yamato-class used only THREE of them) the guy also glued two aircraft carrier runways onto the side for the giggles.

    Looks like a Orks wet dream. Still needs more Dakka though. And I couldn't agree more on the impractical side. Yes they are fucking awesome but the costs to build and to even maintain would be astronomical.

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    NNescio
    about 10 years ago
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    JohnFreeman said:

    Looks like a Orks wet dream. Still needs more Dakka though. And I couldn't agree more on the impractical side. Yes they are fucking awesome but the costs to build and to even maintain would be astronomical.

    It makes the Landkreuzers look practical.

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    Hiyake
    almost 10 years ago
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    Imagine having this girl in Kantai Collection...

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    Commander Kaneda's 500,000 ton battleship Kaneda Hidetarou (1873 - 1925) was an IJN officer, but he was not a naval architect. His Final military rank was Vice Admiral.
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