You know you're overpowered when you get a second red card from Error Musume.

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Also, poor Yamato. It's not your fault you were decked out with all those bells and whistles too only find out later that you have too much stuff to properly keep maintenance up on, thus keeping you from providing any significant presence in the war.

Isn't the Phalanx designed to shoot down incoming missiles instead of aircraft?

JsTuCkEy said:

Isn't the Phalanx designed to shoot down incoming missiles instead of aircraft?

Designed? Yes.
Will it shoot down Aircraft? Yes.

Low Speed, low flying aircraft were still a thing when the Iowas were recommissioned, so the Phalanx was programmed to handle them as well.
One of the many reasons why the pilot/s of any aircraft (helicopters included) have to be very careful how they approach any navy's warships, the CIWS/SSD system could consider them a threat and shoot them down if in automatic mode.

Well Yamato, to be fair you DID have a load of secondaries that contributed to the AA suite... even if they were questionable in both service ceiling effectiveness and elevation.

Unfortunately those things just ran out of ammo and will be down for ten minutes to reload.

And there's a shit load Abyssals incoming.

armory18 said:

Unfortunately those things just ran out of ammo and will be down for ten minutes to reload.

And there's a shit load Abyssals incoming.

Correct!
Each Phalanx unit is only realistically capable of handling up to 20 targets.

That's where the 6 remaining 5in Dual Gun mounts come in!
Even with a super-majority of her AA removed (gun count), she still had a much more effective AA broadside than the Yamato (thank you Fire Control and VT shells)~!

And since nobody is standing on the exposed parts of the deck to get hit by the muzzle blast, those big 16 guns suddenly become useful for ADA as well (having been rated for the AA role since commissioning in WW2...). And they wouldn't be shooting the faulty beehive rounds either, they would be throwing VT-fuzed 1900lb HC grenades (for points and purposes) that knocked basically anything in a 1500ft radius out of the sky.

From their 'births' to their retirement, the Iowas were ADA monsters through and through.

armory18 said:

Unfortunately those things just ran out of ammo and will be down for ten minutes to reload.

And there's a shit load Abyssals incoming.

She still has an armory full of stinger missiles if it comes to that.

fthdyrm5g said:

She still has an armory full of stinger missiles if it comes to that.

Hand hold shoulder fire heat seeking missiles against a horde of prop planes...

Tell me how well that work out for you.

armory18 said:

Hand hold shoulder fire heat seeking missiles against a horde of prop planes...

Tell me how well that work out for you.

Well, Prop planes still produce heat and they still have exhausts so they can still work

MajorAmiruddin said:

Well, Prop planes still produce heat and they still have exhausts so they can still work

My question is do they produce enough heat for the seeker to lock on, cause if not...

armory18 said:

My question is do they produce enough heat for the seeker to lock on, cause if not...

Stingers are used against prop planes.
Just because the major air forces switched to Jets as the primary air wing does not mean that prop planes stopped having uses.

Be cool to see an alt history style render of a Yamato 1983 refit.

What else did Iowa has to give up in order to join Kancolle, stats wise? Her fuel consumption efficiency? Luck?

bombermania said:

What else did Iowa has to give up in order to join Kancolle, stats wise? Her fuel consumption efficiency? Luck?

She has the lowest evasion of all fast battleships, doesn't have a "very long" range like Yamato, and has slightly lower stats than Yamato. I might be forgetting some things, but that's basically it.

Also, to be fair to Yamato in the last panel, while even in WWII Iowa had a much better AA than Yamato, she probably wouldn't have survived either against that many planes.

someone did a theoretical match up between the real yamato and iowa. it was basically down to luck. iowa has better fire control and thus accuracy, but the yamato's bigger cannons means one good shot could do more serious damage, if it could hit.

bombermania said:

What else did Iowa has to give up in order to join Kancolle, stats wise? Her fuel consumption efficiency? Luck?

Stat wise, she is the strongest of the FBBs in defense and firepower. She does have a similar evasion to the other FBBs, and a really high LOS stat, which I think is the third highest in the game outside Ooyodo and the Tone class. She has the highest AA stat, and might have a really high luck stat too, but we really don't know do to how luck is upgraded in the Vita game. She obviously has fit bonuses for her Mk.7 guns, which might get the ability to be upgraded when implemented in the web game as well. There is also a possibility that she might get a extra ability like Bismarck(who has torpedoes) and Littorio/Roma(who can equip bomber planes) in the form of radar guided shelling, do to her guns description.

Her biggest weakness is her resource consumption, which is only lower than the Yamatos. This is by far her largest ahistorical stat in the game, mostly do to the need for balance more than anything else.

Frankly, she came out really well in my opinion. This is a game after all, that has the really old Kongou class being on par with the more advance Bismarck and the Vittorio Veneto class.

MajorAmiruddin said:

Well, Prop planes still produce heat and they still have exhausts so they can still work

I can assure you that super-charged internal combustion engines producing well over a thousand horsepower minimum produce plenty of heat. They actually use tiny little drones like one step above a hobby RC plane for the live fire training. The current ones have newer seekers then the older ones Iowa would have though, but given the massively larger signature that shouldn't be an issue.

kibehisa said:

Designed? Yes.
Will it shoot down Aircraft? Yes.

Low Speed, low flying aircraft were still a thing when the Iowas were recommissioned, so the Phalanx was programmed to handle them as well.
One of the many reasons why the pilot/s of any aircraft (helicopters included) have to be very careful how they approach any navy's warships, the CIWS/SSD system could consider them a threat and shoot them down if in automatic mode.

Case and point.