I am absolutely infatuated with Akira's normal kanmusu designs. Beautiful colors and gorgeously creative. Even though (s)he's only designed two, (s)he's tied with Yoshinori as my favorite.
Wikipedia: "She was lightly damaged by shell splinters during the British attack on Mers-el-Kébir on 3 July 1940, but suffered no casualties. She arrived at Toulon on 18 October where she was subsequently disarmed. In June 1941, Commandant Teste was reactivated as a gunnery training ship. She was at Toulon when the Germans invaded Vichy France and was scuttled there on 27 November 1942 to avoid capture by the Germans. Refloated by the Italians on 1 May 1943, Commandant Teste was captured by the Germans in September 1943 and sunk again the following year by Allied bombs on 18–19 August 1944."
Wikipedia: "She was lightly damaged by shell splinters during the British attack on Mers-el-Kébir on 3 July 1940, but suffered no casualties. She arrived at Toulon on 18 October where she was subsequently disarmed. In June 1941, Commandant Teste was reactivated as a gunnery training ship. She was at Toulon when the Germans invaded Vichy France and was scuttled there on 27 November 1942 to avoid capture by the Germans. Refloated by the Italians on 1 May 1943, Commandant Teste was captured by the Germans in September 1943 and sunk again the following year by Allied bombs on 18–19 August 1944."
Wikipedia: "She was lightly damaged by shell splinters during the British attack on Mers-el-Kébir on 3 July 1940, but suffered no casualties. She arrived at Toulon on 18 October where she was subsequently disarmed. In June 1941, Commandant Teste was reactivated as a gunnery training ship. She was at Toulon when the Germans invaded Vichy France and was scuttled there on 27 November 1942 to avoid capture by the Germans. Refloated by the Italians on 1 May 1943, Commandant Teste was captured by the Germans in September 1943 and sunk again the following year by Allied bombs on 18–19 August 1944."
Jeebus, that's a cruel history.
" Raised again in February 1945, she was still thought to be repairable and was considered for conversion as an escort or training carrier.[16] The proposals were eventually dropped and the ship was used as a store ship for U.S.-built equipment until sold for scrap on 15 May 1950. "
Why is it nobody can make a French ship without vomiting Tricolor all over everything? It's not like Warspite needed a Union Jack t-shirt and facepaint to tell you she was British.
I half-expect one of her lines to be, "Ai am so rrrridiculously Francais, my unshaved armpits smell like frog legs and escargot!" (Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time, you ugly English kn---ig-it!)
Why is it nobody can make a French ship without vomiting Tricolor all over everything? It's not like Warspite needed a Union Jack t-shirt and facepaint to tell you she was British.
I half-expect one of her lines to be, "Ai am so rrrridiculously Francais, my unshaved armpits smell like frog legs and escargot!"
Warspite didn't need a Union Jack because she is already a sitting parody of British royalty. Come on. They're all cultural stereotypes, the only difference is that you happen to like some of them.
Warspite didn't need a Union Jack because she is already a sitting parody of British royalty. Come on. They're all cultural stereotypes, the only difference is that you happen to like some of them.
Then why isn't Iowa's bodice made of Clownpiece-style Stars and Stripes? Why isn't every single Japanese ship draped in red-and-white Rising Sun stripes? Where's the German ship's full-body swasti
There's clear degrees of subtlety and obviousness in all these ship designs, and Warspite has a theme that is clear, and shows they know how to do something to show a ship is British OTHER than just painting the flag all over them. So why is it the French can never get a paint scheme that doesn't have giant Tricolor all over everything? Hell, having her carry a plate full of frog legs would be a relatively subtle design at this point.
As a French, yeah definitively not French. There's some effort to try pronoucing in French but the accent is too heavy. Though I've recognize almost all the French sentence.
I'll take some pleasure to correct them if some artists try to write in French~
The narrator from Ikoku Meiro no Croisée speaks French very well (and he's Canadian).
As a French, yeah definitively not French. There's some effort to try pronoucing in French but the accent is too heavy. Though I've recognize almost all the French sentence.
I'll take some pleasure to correct them if some artists try to write in French~
The narrator from Ikoku Meiro no Croisée speaks French very well (and he's Canadian).
Which probably isn't too uncommon seeing as it is compulsory for a sizable part of elementary school in Canada? Not enough to really be useful but it's a thing.
Which probably isn't too uncommon seeing as it is compulsory for a sizable part of elementary school in Canada? Not enough to really be useful but it's a thing.
I learned French up to grade 9 in Canada, I can make out some French writing, but I can't follow onto other people speaking French, or speak French on the fly. Merde.
sxpp said:
Definitely not French seiyuu, her French has a pretty heavy Asian-like accent.
Being French is one thing, but the ability to form even remotely understandable French is another matter.
As a French, yeah definitively not French. There's some effort to try pronoucing in French but the accent is too heavy. Though I've recognize almost all the French sentence.
Better than Iowa already. That said, the Commandant's Japanese is quite... robotic sounding, with flat intonation. Intentional, maybe?
firechikara said:
I'll take some pleasure to correct them if some artists try to write in French~
The narrator from Ikoku Meiro no Croisée speaks French very well (and he's Canadian).
Out of curiosity, did Croisée's narrator speak in flawless Continental French, or did he have a noticeable Québécois accent? I can't tell myself.
Which probably isn't too uncommon seeing as it is compulsory for a sizable part of elementary school in Canada? Not enough to really be useful but it's a thing.
It is only compulsory in most secondary/high schools in Ontario, and only as a single credit at that. Most people forget all about it once they leave the class. There are however, French immersion elememtary schools that go from grades 1 to 8. There, you spend the first 3 years learning nothing but French, and the next 5 learning a mix of English and French. There are also some secondary/high schools that offer French and other language-catered electives as well, such as Canadian History in French.
It is only compulsory in most secondary/high schools in Ontario, and only as a single credit at that. Most people forget all about it once they leave the class. There are however, French immersion elememtary schools that go from grades 1 to 8. There, you spend the first 3 years learning nothing but French, and the next 5 learning a mix of English and French. There are also some secondary/high schools that offer French and other language-catered electives as well, such as Canadian History in French.
It's compulsory in public elementary schools from grade 4 to that single high school credit, or at least in the Toronto area anyways. Actually just about all the kids of African descent around this specific part speaks mainly french in public because they go to a nearby french immersion school, whereas everybody else seems to go to the normal one. Not sure why that's a thing.
Better than Iowa already. That said, the Commandant's Japanese is quite... robotic sounding, with flat intonation. Intentional, maybe?
If it's intentional, it makes the French language sound very unnatural in my opinion.
NNescio said:
Out of curiosity, did Croisée's narrator speak in flawless Continental French, or did he have a noticeable Québécois accent? I can't tell myself.
Without hesitation, he speaks French fluently to the point I thought it was a genuine French VA who voiced it until I just found out he was Canadian.
As an anecdote, I did once, make a stop to Canada before going to the US (forgot which city) but they spoke in a French with a strong Quebecois accent, which was hard to communicate correctly (and it was just to order food). You get the idea about how different it is I think.
I see that someone has watched atsf's How to Dunkerque. And I do, too.
That said, I'm surprised Kadokawa would add more foreign shipgirls in the period of a year (with Saratoga being the most unexpected of all). Who's next, then? Scharnhorst? Indianapolis? Repulse & Prince of Wales?
If it's intentional, it makes the French language sound very unnatural in my opinion.
Oh the French is certainly unnatural. Still a best effort attempt by the seiyuu though, and I commend her for that.
I was just wondering whether the Japanese lines were meant to be this stilted (flat intonation, almost no pitch accent) though. She sounds like a speech synthesizer, to be honest. Maybe it's intended that way (foreign shipgirls struggle with Japanese, perhaps), or maybe the seiyuu is inexperienced. Could be a foreign-born seiyuu as well, or someone who's lived overseas for some time in an anglophone country, like Uchida Shuu (Warspite's seiyuu).
As an anecdote, I did once, make a stop to Canada before going to the US (forgot which city) but they spoke in a French with a strong Quebecois accent, which was hard to communicate correctly (and it was just to order food). You get the idea about how different it is I think.
As someone who lived in Quebec for a long time, Quebec french has a very unique accent that even French from France couldn't understand it sometimes.
The story is that this accent actually origins from French Upper Royal class, because those in charge of colonies want people to have a unify accent for people to communicate. So they teach those immigrants how to speak like those in upper class. After the french revolution, all royal members died, and hence the accent spoke by all the normal people became the most used accent in France.
obviously I don't whether it's true or not(probably not)
I see that someone has watched atsf's How to Dunkerque. And I do, too.
That said, I'm surprised Kadokawa would add more foreign shipgirls in the period of a year (with Saratoga being the most unexpected of all). Who's next, then? Scharnhorst? Indianapolis? Repulse & Prince of Wales?
Oh the French is certainly unnatural. Still a best effort attempt by the seiyuu though, and I commend her for that.
I was just wondering whether the Japanese lines were meant to be this stilted (flat intonation, almost no pitch accent) though. She sounds like a speech synthesizer, to be honest. Maybe it's intended that way (foreign shipgirls struggle with Japanese, perhaps), or maybe the seiyuu is inexperienced. Could be a foreign-born seiyuu as well, or someone who's lived overseas for some time in an anglophone country, like Uchida Shuu (Warspite's seiyuu).
Chances is that she was trying to go with a French speaking japanese with a very heavy french accent. Think Chloe Lemaire from Girl Friend Kari.
As someone who lived in Quebec for a long time, Quebec french has a very unique accent that even French from France couldn't understand it sometimes.
The story is that this accent actually origins from French Upper Royal class, because those in charge of colonies want people to have a unify accent for people to communicate. So they teach those immigrants how to speak like those in upper class. After the french revolution, all royal members died, and hence the accent spoke by all the normal people became the most used accent in France.
obviously I don't whether it's true or not(probably not)
Ah, I don't know either but I agree with your first sentence. I had to show from the menu since speaking didn't give anywhere (and I didn't know much about English at that time) lol.
Shebadotfr said:
Chances is that she was trying to go with a French speaking japanese with a very heavy french accent. Think Chloe Lemaire from Girl Friend Kari.
I doubt it's really the case unless she's a Japanese born in France.
I've seen French people speaking japanese and (unless they mastered the japanese accent) they always have that accent in some part like the "u" or "r/l".
For exemple, instead of "Teitoku", they'll pronouce it like "Teitokoo". Or "Kokoro" where the "r" is pronounced strongly.
I've seen once in a Japanime/manga event where people had the challenge to sing a japanese song but pronouncing words like a French, it was way different lol.
The other thing is the word "Très bien" as it seems pretty popular to Japanese, but the thing is they always give an intonation which goes up. I don't know if English people say it like this too, but for us, it usually goes down.
And that's why, I think it's not possible to give at least a complete Japanese accent to a French language. I've listened many times Teste's VA, I couldn't hear a single French word like a true French.
Ah, I don't know either but I agree with your first sentence. I had to show from the menu since speaking didn't give anywhere (and I didn't know much about English at that time) lol.
I've heard Québécois French has notoriously loose vowels. Also quite nasalized. Hmm... from these, if I were to pick a Japanese equivalent dialect it'll probably be Tohoku (that rural hick accent) which has similar features.
English would probably be the Jersey accent. Or the stereotypical Joisey one.
firechikara said:
I doubt it's really the case unless she's a Japanese born in France.
I've seen French people speaking japanese and (unless they mastered the japanese accent) they always have that accent in some part like the "u" or "r/l".
For exemple, instead of "Teitoku", they'll pronouce it like "Teitokoo". Or "Kokoro" where the "r" is pronounced strongly.
I've seen once in a Japanime/manga event where people had the challenge to sing a japanese song but pronouncing words like a French, it was way different lol.
The other thing is the word "Très bien" as it seems pretty popular to Japanese, but the thing is they always give an intonation which goes up. I don't know if English people say it like this too, but for us, it usually goes down.
And that's why, I think it's not possible to give at least a complete Japanese accent to a French language. I've listened many times Teste's VA, I couldn't hear a single French word like a true French.
So the first shipgirl we get from France is a sea plane tender? That's kind of lame. Of all the ships to pick, why that one?
Tanaka already claimed he wanted an obscure girl, all the way back since the vita game interview along with the claim that Yoshinori draws a submarine girl.
Tanaka already claimed he wanted an obscure girl, all the way back since the vita game interview along with the claim that Yoshinori draws a submarine girl.
Tanaka already claimed he wanted an obscure girl, all the way back since the vita game interview along with the claim that Yoshinori draws a submarine girl.
Forget about obscure, I wonder if there's any absurdly unlucky Allied ships that actually sank because of said bad luck other than the obvious Repulse and Prince of Wales (though those two weren't so much unlucky as they were caught sleeping) so that we can have ships from both sides which are characterized by abysmal Luck rating.
Forget about obscure, I wonder if there's any absurdly unlucky Allied ships that actually sank because of said bad luck other than the obvious Repulse and Prince of Wales (though those two weren't so much unlucky as they were caught sleeping) so that we can have ships from both sides which are characterized by abysmal Luck rating.
Willy D.
And USS Indianapolis is a good candidate, if you call getting scapegoated by his own military's inquiry despite the testimony of the enemy submarine commander (that sunk the ship) that the ship's captain did nothing wrong.
And USS Indianapolis is a good candidate, if you call getting scapegoated by his own military's inquiry despite the testimony of the enemy submarine commander (that sunk the ship) that the ship's captain did nothing wrong.
