It baffles me that these people can't even take a moment to ask how the process of getting a gun works. Even ask them how buying a gun from out-of-State and you'll really throw them for a loop.
To make this comment relevant, shouldn't ST AR-15 be a better fit rather than M16?
It baffles me that these people can't even take a moment to ask how the process of getting a gun works. Even ask them how buying a gun from out-of-State and you'll really throw them for a loop.
To make this comment relevant, shouldn't ST AR-15 be a better fit rather than M16?
It doesn't matter to them. ST AR-15, M4 SOPMOD II, M4A1, and M16A1 are all the same in their eyes. Show them a shotgun and they'll call it an AR-15. A Glock 19 with a light is an "assault pistol"(found in San Francisco) and grandpappy's old bolt action is a "high power sniper rifle".
Also, the ARs on display look like M16 clones so maybe that's why?
That being said, gun culture has become a tad ridiculous stateside. We have by far the most firearms out of any nation in the world, and also the most firearms per capita. We have enough guns in ownership that every man, woman, and child could carry a single firearm and there would still be some left overs. We also have the most firearm deaths per capita among wealthy countries, a good chunk of which are suicides (which a handy firearm makes far easier to do than other methods). Excluding the suicides, it still holds true.
We have by far the most firearms out of any nation in the world, and also the most firearms per capita. We have enough guns in ownership that every man, woman, and child could carry a single firearm and there would still be some left overs.
So?
We also have the most firearm deaths per capita among wealthy countries, a good chunk of which are suicides (which a handy firearm makes far easier to do than other methods). Excluding the suicides, it still holds true.
Also exclude justifiable homicide (police and self-defense shooting) and the number drops to less than 10k.
We also have the most firearm deaths per capita among wealthy countries
Comparing the US to countries 1/6 to 1/3 the population size. Also implying they have anywhere near the gang problem we have
So there are estimated to be around 650-700 million guns in circulation in civilian hands, last I checked. We account, on our own, for over half of that.
darkspire91 said:
Comparing the US to countries 1/6 to 1/3 the population size. Also implying they have anywhere near the gang problem we have
That's why I specifically said Per Capita. 2 out of 200 and 1 out of 100 is going to be equivalent. But, fact of the matter is, even with that it's not. We have far more firearm deaths, per capita, than our peers. Gangs aren't a just US thing either, nor are they omnipresent within it.
darkspire91 said:
Also exclude justifiable homicide (police and self-defense shooting) and the number drops to less than 10k.
Most data sets do exclude them if I recall correctly, since those don't necessarily get reported as such.
Point is, it is far easier to end your own or another's life in the States than in other countries that are roughly equivalent from an economic perspective thanks to the ready accessibility of firearms. It's no surprise that, therefore, we loose more lives to firearms than any other wealthy country. Again, a huge chunk of our firearms deaths are not homicides. They're suicides. Regardless of whether it is a suicide or a homicide, however, they are lives lost that do not need to be.
So there are estimated to be around 650-700 million guns in circulation in civilian hands, last I checked. We account, on our own, for over half of that..
Still don't see a point in that.
Gangs aren't a just US thing either, nor are they omnipresent within it.
Never said it was. And 'not omnipresent'? Do you actually live in the US?
Suicide
I'm barely gonna entertain this dead horse. South Korea and Japan have the highest suicide rates in the developed world and even the EU ranks above the US in suicides. The idea that guns make suicide easier is old and busted.
So there are estimated to be around 650-700 million guns in circulation in civilian hands, last I checked. We account, on our own, for over half of that.
That's why I specifically said Per Capita. 2 out of 200 and 1 out of 100 is going to be equivalent. But, fact of the matter is, even with that it's not. We have far more firearm deaths, per capita, than our peers. Gangs aren't a just US thing either, nor are they omnipresent within it.
Most data sets do exclude them if I recall correctly, since those don't necessarily get reported as such.
Point is, it is far easier to end your own or another's life in the States than in other countries that are roughly equivalent from an economic perspective thanks to the ready accessibility of firearms. It's no surprise that, therefore, we loose more lives to firearms than any other wealthy country. Again, a huge chunk of our firearms deaths are not homicides. They're suicides. Regardless of whether it is a suicide or a homicide, however, they are lives lost that do not need to be.
That being said, gun culture has become a tad ridiculous stateside. We have by far the most firearms out of any nation in the world, and also the most firearms per capita. We have enough guns in ownership that every man, woman, and child could carry a single firearm and there would still be some left overs. We also have the most firearm deaths per capita among wealthy countries, a good chunk of which are suicides (which a handy firearm makes far easier to do than other methods). Excluding the suicides, it still holds true.
