>"its official art for doom eternal rather than fan-art."
Okay first off, it practically IS fan art. It's fan art of Final Fantasy AND Doom drawn by the official Doom Twitter. Secondly, why would it being official art make it ineligible for approval? There's a crap ton of "official art" on danbooru.
Was it really that hard for people to recognize one of the most iconic images in gaming history, that it needed to be pointed out that it was an FF7 homage?
Kahvro said:
>"it isn't on-topic here"
How?
>"its official art for doom eternal rather than fan-art."
Okay first off, it practically IS fan art. It's fan art of Final Fantasy AND Doom drawn by the official Doom Twitter. Secondly, why would it being official art make it ineligible for approval? There's a crap ton of "official art" on danbooru.
LoweGear said:
Wat
So you're telling me that official_art tag with 136,000 entries here in danbooru is a lie?
Could ya'll not cherry pick words?
It's "official" art for DOOM ETERNAL. If it wasn't also an FF7 homage, then it would have been official art of a western IP done in a distinctly non-anime style, possibly by a western artist. That is basically the very definition of off-topic for this site.
Was it really that hard for people to recognize one of the most iconic images in gaming history, that it needed to be pointed out that it was an FF7 homage?
Could ya'll not cherry pick words?
It's "official" art for DOOM ETERNAL. If it wasn't also an FF7 homage, then it would have been official art of a western IP done in a distinctly non-anime style, possibly by a western artist. That is basically the very definition of off-topic for this site.
Odd... when I look at off-topic I see.
off-topic
From the Terms of Service
Prohibited and Restricted Content You may not upload any of the following:
Non-anime: Photographs of American porn actresses, for example, are prohibited. Photographs of cosplayers, figures, or prominent figures in the industry are acceptable.
Use this tag when an image breaks the above rules.
The following tags are aliased to this tag: non-anime_related (learn more).
Edit: If this comes off as somewhat snarky my apologies but I am serious here. Western art on this site generally tends to be held to a higher standered then none but that doesn't mean there is no place for it.
Prohibited and Restricted Content You may not upload any of the following:
Non-anime: Photographs of American porn actresses, for example, are prohibited. Photographs of cosplayers, figures, or prominent figures in the industry are acceptable.
Use this tag when an image breaks the above rules.
The following tags are aliased to this tag: non-anime_related (learn more).
Edit: If this comes off as somewhat snarky my apologies but I am serious here. Western art on this site generally tends to be held to a higher standered then none but that doesn't mean there is no place for it.
See, this creates a weird situation. There is, to my knowledge, only one example of Western IP official art on this site besides this one, and it's also for Doom Eternal. As far as I can recall, it has always been considered by most active users of this site preferable to avoid uploading official art of Western IPs, primarily because there's just no real point to it. The site exists as an archive for "anime" related fanart, because artists have a habit of just suddenly deleting their accounts and sending all of their art to the abyss. Eastern IP official art is also featured here to make it easier for English speakers to find. Neither of these concerns are really relevant to Western IP official art, it's easy to find and not very likely to just vanish from the face of the internet completely out of nowhere.
This discussion is about official art of a western IP of an unknown artist. The only thing that makes it "anime" related is that it's a recreation of an iconic image of a JRPG. I don't particularly care whether or not this image is off-topic, I don't really think it is either. My point was not that western art is unacceptable, nor that art of western IPs is unacceptable, but that official art of western IPs is not "anime related" and isn't really in need of being preserved. Plus, a couple people took issue with the idea that official art isn't allowed here, despite that not being what was said at all, and that bugged me.
Also, as far as off-topic is concerned, it was formerly named non-anime_related and a user that, like, literally made their account five days ago, took the liberty of adding in that bit from the ToS, and for whatever reason specifically highlighted the line about porn actresses. This by itself would already have marked anything tagged with it as being wrong for the site thanks to the line, "Use this tag when an image breaks the above rules." Despite plenty of things tagged with it not being considered a problem by most users. And then non-anime_related got aliased to off-topic, so now a bunch of western artstyle fanart of western IPs is tagged as off-topic because they were previously tagged as non-anime_related, with the implication of off-topic being that it should only be used for things that shouldn't be on the site. So that got messy.
You know, this has been bothered me for a while, but i don't know where to ask it & how to get different opinion from different people, so can i ask it here?
Danbooru, is as far as i know and i think, is like a repository site, a 'warehouse' which users are able to post content and search for images they want to see through tags and ratings, right? And as far i know, the only pros of become some kinda big uploader are more upload+comment quota, rank, etc. Like basically, a storehouse with certain restrictions and bonus where you can show things you think is amazing enough to show to others, right?
Why some people feels...don't know, offended? When they can't 'store & show' a picture here? I mean, if you like a picture and some don't, why don't you save it in your PC when you can see it without anyone criticizing, calling you out on certain fetish (Oh the bans sections...) or restrict you? Even going as far as resorting to sockpuppeting and trolling when you can't get what you want? You don't get some actual benefit from it afaik, so why?
This is just my opinion as a common visitor to Danbooru.
You know, this has been bothered me for a while, but i don't know where to ask it & how to get different opinion from different people, so can i ask it here?
Danbooru, is as far as i know and i think, is like a repository site, a 'warehouse' which users are able to post content and search for images they want to see through tags and ratings, right? And as far i know, the only pros of become some kinda big uploader are more upload+comment quota, rank, etc. Like basically, a storehouse with certain restrictions and bonus where you can show things you think is amazing enough to show to others, right?
Why some people feels...don't know, offended? When they can't 'store & show' a picture here? I mean, if you like a picture and some don't, why don't you save it in your PC when you can see it without anyone criticizing, calling you out on certain fetish (Oh the bans sections...) or restrict you? Even going as far as resorting to sockpuppeting and trolling when you can't get what you want? You don't get some actual benefit from it afaik, so why?
This is just my opinion as a common visitor to Danbooru.
Some people see uploading and the "recognition" of uploading more of the best art faster than others as highly valuable, despite it being basically worthless. For them it's more about pride than any desire to actually share art. I'm fairly certain quite a decent number of uploaders don't even care about the art they're sharing, they just want the "fame" of being the first to upload it.
And for whatever reason some, or possibly most, humans get offended if you don't share their opinions, taking it as a personal attack even though they didn't even make the art they uploaded. If you don't like what they uploaded, you're stupid and have no taste, or, according to a bizarrely high number of agitated comments, you're a loli rape lover who hates feet.
The short answer is that people are weird and assign value to weird things. Also they don't like it when you don't like feet as much as they do.
blindVigil said: See, this creates a weird situation. There is, to my knowledge, only one example of Western IP official art on this site besides this one, and it's also for Doom Eternal. As far as I can recall, it has always been considered by most active users of this site preferable to avoid uploading official art of Western IPs, primarily because there's just no real point to it. The site exists as an archive for "anime" related fanart, because artists have a habit of just suddenly deleting their accounts and sending all of their art to the abyss. Eastern IP official art is also featured here to make it easier for English speakers to find. Neither of these concerns are really relevant to Western IP official art, it's easy to find and not very likely to just vanish from the face of the internet completely out of nowhere.
You're wrong - there's lots of art for Western IPs here (I'm not going to name anything because I'd rather it not get flagged by over-zealous weeaboos).
The difference is, most Western art will be either comics or game related. Comic-art is usually off-topic due to the style/subject matter not appealing, and game-art is usually 3D and thus of no interest.
You're wrong - there's lots of art for Western IPs here (I'm not going to name anything because I'd rather it not get flagged by over-zealous weeaboos).
The difference is, most Western art will be either comics or game related. Comic-art is usually off-topic due to the style/subject matter not appealing, and game-art is usually 3D and thus of no interest.
I was specifically talking about official art, I know there's lots of western IP art here, but I can't recall seeing any official art.
If you were talking about official art, link me in DMs or something? I'm curious to see what we have. Even if there is more official art than I'm aware of, it's not exactly easy to find, I'm skeptical that there's "lots".
Just FYI, it's been a problem for a long time now. The issue is that the ToS are seven years old and have never been updated to reflect the rise in popularity of stuff like Overwatch and similar, which have nothing to do with anime but are still very much accepted on danbooru. I plan to raise a forum topic once issue #4415 is fixed so we can actually figure out this topic once and for all.
Just FYI, it's been a problem for a long time now. The issue is that the ToS are seven years old and have never been updated to reflect the rise in popularity of stuff like Overwatch and similar, which have nothing to do with anime but are still very much accepted on danbooru. I plan to raise a forum topic once issue #4415 is fixed so we can actually figure out this topic once and for all.
The end result of that topic is going to be limbo once again. I would rather have it as a guideline rather than rule myself. Just like how we have guidelines with tagging and such but it isn't overly strict.
Compromise on both sides (pretty sure there are more sides than 2 tbh) of the argument is likely the best option. Something of "It is preferably if you *don't* do too much of that, this is mainly eastern artist, game and anime themed collection of works after all" rather than outright ban.
And I have seen way too much substandard art that was approved of here that should not have been approved purely because there was some bias to the artist (or just due to the person approving not giving the image a proper look, which is understandable considering the constant flow). If those are tolerated, albeit with a glare, there should be space for other stuff that is actually good quality.
But that is just my penny's worth of opinion on this.
