I'm not entirely sure if Alternate Breast-Size here is fitting, since this is I guess a more "milf-ified" version of Mordred. I added it because it is an alternate breast size from anything official with her.

MisterJuice said:

I'm not entirely sure if Alternate Breast-Size here is fitting, since this is I guess a more "milf-ified" version of Mordred. I added it because it is an alternate breast size from anything official with her.

Mordred was fully grown when she was alive so yes alternate breast size would fit.

cd_young said:

Mordred was fully grown when she was alive so yes alternate breast size would fit.

From my understanding it's a bit complicated, though I might be wrong here. She was an adult and fully grown in a similar sense as Saber Artoria, in that her body stopped growing after a certain point. For Saber Artoria it was Excalibur/the sheath, for Mordred it's because despite being born from seed and womb the process was sped up with magic, and that made her a homunculus. So in theory under more normal circumstances Mordred might have eventually aged to look more like Lancer Artoria. Again though I might be wrong, it's been a minute so I apologize if I'm misremembering details.

MisterJuice said:

From my understanding it's a bit complicated, though I might be wrong here. She was an adult and fully grown in a similar sense as Saber Artoria, in that her body stopped growing after a certain point. For Saber Artoria it was Excalibur/the sheath, for Mordred it's because despite being born from seed and womb the process was sped up with magic, and that made her a homunculus. So in theory under more normal circumstances Mordred might have eventually aged to look more like Lancer Artoria. Again though I might be wrong, it's been a minute so I apologize if I'm misremembering details.

Mordred is technically a clone, so she mimics the body she is cloned from. Artoria is stuck at the age of 15 despite being 23 and would have a body more along the lines of between MHXX and Lancer Artoria without both the magics of Caliburn and Avalon.

cd_young said:

Mordred is technically a clone, so she mimics the body she is cloned from. Artoria is stuck at the age of 15 despite being 23 and would have a body more along the lines of between MHXX and Lancer Artoria without both the magics of Caliburn and Avalon.

I think we're mostly on the same page? From my understanding it's "kind of" like cloning since it's making a person out of the seed of Artoria and the womb of Morgan, but it's also using homunculus magic. So the reason Mordred's body doesn't age is primarily because of said homunculus traits. Also yeah as I said Artoria's body doesn't age for reasons like Excalibur/the sheath. From what I understand of at least the regular mythos of Arthur, Avalon is the sheath for Caliburn/Excalibur, and I know in at least Fate the sheath provides some of the best healing magic. Lancer Artoria and some others don't have it, so their body ages more. I was also saying I think Mordred might have in theory aged more like Lancer Artoria, if Morgan waited 9 months to birth a baby normally instead of using homunculus magic to speed up the process, and age Mordred up to the same place as Saber Artoria. Maybe there's some parallel earth or timeline like that.

MisterJuice said:

I think we're mostly on the same page? From my understanding it's "kind of" like cloning since it's making a person out of the seed of Artoria and the womb of Morgan, but it's also using homunculus magic. So the reason Mordred's body doesn't age is primarily because of said homunculus traits. Also yeah as I said Artoria's body doesn't age for reasons like Excalibur/the sheath. From what I understand of at least the regular mythos of Arthur, Avalon is the sheath for Caliburn/Excalibur, and I know in at least Fate the sheath provides some of the best healing magic. Lancer Artoria and some others don't have it, so their body ages more. I was also saying I think Mordred might have in theory aged more like Lancer Artoria, if Morgan waited 9 months to birth a baby normally instead of using homunculus magic to speed up the process, and age Mordred up to the same place as Saber Artoria. Maybe there's some parallel earth or timeline like that.

You've got it a little backwards. Morgan didn't use magic to age Mordred faster, she used magic to create a homunculus clone of Artoria that would naturally age, and expire, at an accelerated rate. Mordred wasn't human from the moment of conception, she was always a humunculus with an expected life span of about 10 years. She was only alive for about 2 when she died at Artoria's hand.

It's possible that if she had lived for even just another year, her appearance would have matured significantly. It's also possible that being conceived while Artoria possessed the Avalon may have affected the maturation process of her non-human body, locking her into the teenage appearance we're familiar with.

blindVigil said:

You've got it a little backwards. Morgan didn't use magic to age Mordred faster, she used magic to create a homunculus clone of Artoria that would naturally age, and expire, at an accelerated rate. Mordred wasn't human from the moment of conception, she was always a humunculus with an expected life span of about 10 years. She was only alive for about 2 when she died at Artoria's hand.

It's possible that if she had lived for even just another year, her appearance would have matured significantly. It's also possible that being conceived while Artoria possessed the Avalon may have affected the maturation process of her non-human body, locking her into the teenage appearance we're familiar with.

I know she was a homunculus from the start, from what I understand she was a homunculus created using the womb of Morgan and the seed of Artoria instead of something like a test tube like Sieg. By using magic to make her age faster, I meant the process of making a magic homunculus and how they age quicker. Basically a way of making an accelerated human being that could join the knights of the round table. Apologies for my wording being off in my previous comment. Part of what I was trying to say is that I wonder what Mordred would look like, if Morgan just used the seed of Artoria to birth a baby regularly, instead of using homunculus magic to make a pseudo-clone homunculus that ages weirdly. Hopefully now this is all correct, and I'm not messing up my words or misunderstanding something.

MisterJuice said:

I know she was a homunculus from the start, from what I understand she was a homunculus created using the womb of Morgan and the seed of Artoria instead of something like a test tube like Sieg. By using magic to make her age faster, I meant the process of making a magic homunculus and how they age quicker. Basically a way of making an accelerated human being that could join the knights of the round table. Apologies for my wording being off in my previous comment. Part of what I was trying to say is that I wonder what Mordred would look like, if Morgan just used the seed of Artoria to birth a baby regularly, instead of using homunculus magic to make a pseudo-clone homunculus that ages weirdly. Hopefully now this is all correct, and I'm not messing up my words or misunderstanding something.

She was created from an Egg from Morgan and seed from Artoria. Creating a homunculus doesn't require a womb. Ilya's a special case since she's 1/2 human 1/2 homunculus (which is also why she can live to be 17 not 10.)

cd_young said:

She was created from an Egg from Morgan and seed from Artoria. Creating a homunculus doesn't require a womb. Ilya's a special case since she's 1/2 human 1/2 homunculus (which is also why she can live to be 17 not 10.)

Thanks for clearing that up for me, that makes sense. I thought in a case like this the womb was needed as a foundation to start the process and formation of the homunculus, but I guess only Morgan's egg was needed. It's genuinely interesting how much detail goes into all of this magic-science. Also again I still wonder how things would have turned out if Morgan took Artoria's seed and birthed a baby normally instead.