YumiKanzaki said: I thought the same, and according to the pixiv tags we're right. Changing to Black Lagoon tags.
According to the artist's description it's an Alexander Anderson parody, but either way you shouldn't have removed the touhou and izayoi_sakuya tags. Changed it back.
According to the artist's description it's an Alexander Anderson parody, but either way you shouldn't have removed the touhou and izayoi_sakuya tags. Changed it back.
why did you add the touhou and izayoi_sakuya tags...sakuya's hair isn't even that long...I'm changing it back to how it should be.
have you got any evidence about this coming from Pixiv?
He just posted evidence coming from Pixiv, albeit translated. Tags designated with asterisks are those added by the image's creator, including "Touhou" (which [KN] translated as "East") and "Sakuya". The artist's description confirms this is meant to be Sakuya, even indicating post #545885 as a sort of sequel. He could copy-paste the Japanese tags, I suppose, but would you trust that to be any more believable than a translation? If you need to see the original Japanese tags, that only requires clicking the Source link at the left side of the image. (The asterisks denoting author-posted tags don't appear unless you log in to Pixiv, though.)
He just posted evidence coming from Pixiv, albeit translated. Tags designated with asterisks are those added by the image's creator, including "Touhou" (which [KN] translated as "East") and "Sakuya". The artist's description confirms this is meant to be Sakuya, even indicating post #545885 as a sort of sequel. He could copy-paste the Japanese tags, I suppose, but would you trust that to be any more believable than a translation? If you need to see the original Japanese tags, that only requires clicking the Source link at the left side of the image. (The asterisks denoting author-posted tags don't appear unless you log in to Pixiv, though.)
well by the looks of it izayoi sakuya doesn't look anything like that...the first time I saw this picture I thought it was roberta...plus izayoi sakuya does not have long hair and the way that ponytail is dune looks very much like the ponytail roberta had in roberta's blood trail.
the thing is if he/she was trying to do a mix between izayoi sakuya & alexander anderson then he/she done a bad job in terms of distinguishing one character from another...or even both to be honest...because that straight up looks like roberta...it doesn't look like izayoi sakuya or alexander anderson in the least...but despite that...those knifes gave of the impression that this was a mix between alexander anderson and roberta...which I can understand is a good pear to put into one character...seems as they are both fucked up in the head and that alexander anderson was a priest and roberta a maid...but with izayoi sakuya...I don't feel like she's part of this at all...she doesn't have long hair...she doesn't wear glasses...and her maid dress is blue...not black like roberta's.
well by the looks of it izayoi sakuya doesn't look anything like that...the first time I saw this picture I thought it was roberta...plus izayoi sakuya does not have long hair and the way that ponytail is dune looks very much like the ponytail roberta had in roberta's blood trail.
the thing is if he/she was trying to do a mix between izayoi sakuya & alexander anderson then he/she done a bad job in terms of distinguishing one character from another...or even both to be honest...because that straight up looks like roberta...it doesn't look like izayoi sakuya or alexander anderson in the least...but despite that...those knifes gave of the impression that this was a mix between alexander anderson and roberta...which I can understand is a good pear to put into one character...seems as they are both fucked up in the head and that alexander anderson was a priest and roberta a maid...but with izayoi sakuya...I don't feel like she's part of this at all...she doesn't have long hair...she doesn't wear glasses...and her maid dress is blue...not black like roberta's.
1. The character's hair looks about neck-length, except for the braid at the side...like Sakuya's. 2. The character could be wearing glasses, or that could be artistic license for depicting menacingly glowing eyes. 3. Barring the eyes and edge-glow effects, the character herself is depicted in grayscale, so she could very well be wearing a blue outfit and we couldn't tell. 4. This could be a character mash-up.
I understand you have difficulty believing this is Sakuya from what you see here, but if the "Sakuya" and "Touhou" tags added on Pixiv by the artist himself don't convince you, especially in light of what I wrote above, then we'll have to agree to disagree with you. However, based on those Pixiv tags, please do not remove the equivalent tags here, regardless of whether or not you believe them.
oh yeah?...so that means I've been lied to...I guess that goes to show that you can't trust anyone these days.
How were you lied to? The tags are there, they just weren't added by the artist. Only the ones marked with asterisks are artist-added tags. [KN]'s translation is entirely consistent with the original Pixiv tags in this respect. Or do you mean "lied to" in some other fashion?
next time you try giving evidence to someone...try researching about the evidence you have before you make yourself look like a fool by calling it evidence when in fact it isn't.
What in the holy fuck are you talking about? The artist him/herself tagged this as a Helling Touhou parody. The only person who looks like a fool here is you.
shut the fuck up troll...in case you haven't noticed Kikimaru said that those tags WEREN'T added by the artist...so piss of before you make yourself look more like a dumbass you mouthy prick.
And nowhere does that contradict anything that was said before. No one ever claimed the Anderson and Roberta tags were added by the artist. [KN]'s translation read:
*Graffiti *Sakuya *East *HELLSING Andersen Roberta China ~U~u~u U~u~u!! Shi~i~i~i~i~i~i ...! cAMEN †
Only the first four tags, those marked with asterisks, were added by the artist. My research (that is, looking at the original Japanese tags on Pixiv) still holds up. Everything I've claimed as proof is indeed valid. I'm not really sure why you're getting upset, or why you feel anyone here is lying.
It seems there's a communication breakdown somewhere along the line here, but that tensions are running a bit high to discuss it properly any further. I hope we can come back to this type of situation later without such problems.
Going by Pixiv tags, Black Lagoon/Roberta tags removed since they weren't added by the artist.
ok maybe I was completely off track the first time I read this...at first glance I thought it said touhou/izayoi sakuya...my bad...but here's the thing...how do you know if the tags from Pixiv were added by the artist...they might've been added by someone else who thought it was only a mix between alexander anderson & izayoi sakuya when it might not of been...lets be honest and say none of us truly know and turn it back to how it was before.
ok maybe I was completely off track the first time I read this...at first glance I thought it said touhou/izayoi sakuya...my bad...but here's the thing...how do you know if the tags from Pixiv were added by the artist...they might've been added by someone else who thought it was only a mix between alexander anderson & izayoi sakuya when it might not of been...lets be honest and say none of us truly know and turn it back to how it was before.
As noted several times in this comment thread, tags added by the artist are marked by an asterisk on Pixiv. Granted, you have to log in to see those asterisks, but they're very obvious once you do. The Sakuya, Touhou, and Hellsing tags were added by the artist; the Roberta and Andersen tags were not. It's very easy to tell.
As noted several times in this comment thread, tags added by the artist are marked by an asterisk on Pixiv. Granted, you have to log in to see those asterisks, but they're very obvious once you do. The Sakuya, Touhou, and Hellsing tags were added by the artist; the Roberta and Andersen tags were not. It's very easy to tell.
Kikimaru said:
Going by Pixiv tags, Black Lagoon/Roberta tags removed since they weren't added by the artist.
first do you have evidence about those tags being added by the artist.
second...It is not very easy to tell...I've told you the reasons why and how so.
Failure to comprehend that the discussion regarding tags is over; tag vandalism (post #491972)
you gave no evidence and instead gave me arrogance...failure to give evidence about the artist adding those tags means that you are wrong...and therefore means that you are the one vandalising tags.
Pickie said:
No, you're just being lazy and not reading the previous posts. Stop adding Black Lagoon and the Roberta tag.
the black lagoon & roberta tags were here before...I'm just returning it to how it should be.
you gave no evidence and instead gave me arrogance...failure to give evidence about the artist adding those tags means that you are wrong...and therefore means that you are the one vandalising tags.
the black lagoon & roberta tags were here before...I'm just returning it to how it should be.
You are fighting a losing fight. Leave it be or an admin or mod is going to show up and stop you.
you gave no evidence and instead gave me arrogance...failure to give evidence about the artist adding those tags means that you are wrong...and therefore means that you are the one vandalising tags.
Click the source. Notice the tags with an asterik? Those are the only artist-added tags. They are:
らくがき (graffiti)
咲夜 (Sakuya)
東方 (Touhou)
HELLSING
the black lagoon & roberta tags were here before...I'm just returning it to how it should be.
Those are mistakes introduced over a year after the original Danbooru upload. Learn how Danbooru works before continuing any edits, kthnx.
first do you have evidence about those tags being added by the artist.
Evidence was given several times, by [KN] with a translation of the pixiv tags including the asterisks denoting artist-added tags, and by _cf with no less than link to the pixiv page itself listing those tags after you questioned the source of [KN]'s tag list. (In fact, as pointed out above because of the source link, this evidence was there from the instant the image was uploaded, should you have chosen to look.)
massimus92 said:
second...It is not very easy to tell...I've told you the reasons why and how so.
You gave no reasons why and how so. In response to [KN] and _cn's evidence and Moonspeaker's first explanation of of the asterisks on pixiv tags to you, you responded with a post about what you thought the drawing subject looked like, completely irrelevant to discussion about pixiv tags. The remainder of your comments consisted of personal complaints/attacks and/or asking questions that had long been answered. Nowhere did you give a reason for anything relating to pixiv tags.
The relevant excerpts above are given below, in order.
fuzzygnome said:
Although she's drawn looking like Roberta, the artist tagged the picture as Sakuya.
massimus92 said:
have you got any evidence to back that up?
[KN] said:
Pixiv tags:
*Graffiti *Sakuya *East *HELLSING Andersen Roberta China ~U~u~u U~u~u!! Shi~i~i~i~i~i~i ...! cAMEN †
[Evidence.]
massimus92 said:
have you got any evidence about this coming from Pixiv?
Tags designated with asterisks are those added by the image's creator, including "Touhou" (which [KN] translated as "East") and "Sakuya".
[First explanation.]
massimus92 said:
well by the looks of it izayoi sakuya doesn't look anything like that...
[Complete disregard of plainly stated evidence - nowhere in this post are pixiv tags so much as mentioned.]
Moonspeaker said:
Only the first four tags, those marked with asterisks, were added by the artist.
[Second explanation. The four tags in question, as listed above, are *Graffiti, *Sakuya, *East (i.e. 東方, touhou (とうほう)) *HELLSING]
massimus92 said:
how do you know if the tags from Pixiv were added by the artist
[Complete disregard of evidence that has now been plainly stated twice.]
Moonspeaker said:
As noted several times in this comment thread, tags added by the artist are marked by an asterisk on Pixiv.
[Third explanation.]
massimus92 said:
first do you have evidence about those tags being added by the artist.
[Again, complete disregard bordering on selective obliviousness of evidence that has now been plainly stated three times, including once quoted in this post.]
massimus92 said:
you gave no evidence and instead gave me arrogance
Evidence was given several times, by [KN] with a translation of the pixiv tags including the asterisks denoting artist-added tags, and by _cf with no less than link to the pixiv page itself listing those tags after you questioned the source of [KN]'s tag list. (In fact, as pointed out above because of the source link, this evidence was there from the instant the image was uploaded, should you have chosen to look.)
You gave no reasons why and how so. In response to [KN] and _cn's evidence and Moonspeaker's first explanation of of the asterisks on pixiv tags to you, you responded with a post about what you thought the drawing subject looked like, completely irrelevant to discussion about pixiv tags. The remainder of your comments consisted of personal complaints/attacks and/or asking questions that had long been answered. Nowhere did you give a reason for anything relating to pixiv tags.
The relevant excerpts above are given below, in order.
[Evidence.]
[Evidence.]
[First explanation.]
[Complete disregard of plainly stated evidence - nowhere in this post are pixiv tags so much as mentioned.]
[Second explanation. The four tags in question, as listed above, are *Graffiti, *Sakuya, *East (i.e. 東方, touhou (とうほう)) *HELLSING]
[Complete disregard of evidence that has now been plainly stated twice.]
[Third explanation.]
[Again, complete disregard bordering on selective obliviousness of evidence that has now been plainly stated three times, including once quoted in this post.]
[And again.]
and I'll do it again and again and again...why?...because...you haven't given me the name to who put those tags their in pixiv...how can I so easily believe what other people me if they themselves don't know as well...do you just want me to give in and say "you're right I'm sorry I was wrong"...well sorry...but I'm a bit stubborn and hardheaded...excuse my disability to see the "obliviousness of evidence that has now been plainly stated three times" even though I am not convinced...why?...because I am not convinced that you or anyone on this comment section knows who put up the tags in pixiv...how do I know you're just voicing your opinion or not...how do I know if you know or not...I admit I don't know how the system works on pixiv...therefore I don't know if either the tags are added by and only the artist or by someone else like how people do on this site...plus if you say that the artists on pixiv are the only one's who add their tags to their own art...them I'm gonna have to have proof about that as well...after you give me solid proof that that is the case...then I'll leave the tags alone...until then...I'm gonna keep changing them back to how they should be...end of story.
I admit I don't know how the system works on pixiv
That is your problem and yours alone.
Because you seem intent, despite that, on making your lack of knowledge everyone else's problem, here .
pixiv Encyclopedia said:
For instance, let User A be the original artist
...
In this case, all tags that were attached by User A would be marked with an asterisk (*), while custom tags that are not set by User A would be those without an asterisk.
Of course, I expect this to be an exercise in futility to be shortly followed by "well how does pixiv Encyclopedia know?"
and I'll do it again and again and again...why?...because...you haven't given me the name to who put those tags their in pixiv...how can I so easily believe what other people me if they themselves don't know as well...do you just want me to give in and say "you're right I'm sorry I was wrong"...well sorry...but I'm a bit stubborn and hardheaded...excuse my disability to see the "obliviousness of evidence that has now been plainly stated three times" even though I am not convinced...why?...because I am not convinced that you or anyone on this comment section knows who put up the tags in pixiv...how do I know you're just voicing your opinion or not...how do I know if you know or not...I admit I don't know how the system works on pixiv...therefore I don't know if either the tags are added by and only the artist or by someone else like how people do on this site...plus if you say that the artists on pixiv are the only one's who add their tags to their own art...them I'm gonna have to have proof about that as well...after you give me solid proof that that is the case...then I'll leave the tags alone...until then...I'm gonna keep changing them back to how they should be...end of story.
The problem here is that no matter how good the explanation is, you'll simply ignore it just like you have done with several comments above. Just because you're ignorant about how Pixiv work doesn't give you any excuse to continue vandalizing the tags. If you have a problem with how this works, take it to forums.