*Cue gradually more depressing music as a nice girl is gradually forgotten.*

This is why I stick with Medusa. Ever since late 2007 when I first lay eyes on her she has had a place in my heart.

• Addendum: Likely only until My Dress-Up Darling comes up with Season 2

The fate of all thots.

owned

Well that was uncalled for.

I hope Kitagawa knows she can do so VASTLY better then care for this basement dwelling, pregnant belly, unkept, ponytailed, keyboard warrior, mouth breathing dragon.

And really netorare? You expect me to believe that disgusting hairy, unwashed Lycan had an relations with Marin.

She's not even my type of girl but she needs to hug and more after this.

Remember when 02 from Darling in the Franxx was used to be really popular?
Yeah, neither do I. Now she's overshadowed by other Cloverworks waifus like Marin and Yor.

Mysticus said:

Remember when 02 from Darling in the Franxx was used to be really popular?
Yeah, neither do I. Now she's overshadowed by other Cloverworks waifus like Marin and Yor.

She lasted a long time, and cemented herself as an actual sex symbol. Unlike Marin who's a tease using the protagonist to get attention and Yor who's a violent thug.

Mysticus said:

Remember when 02 from Darling in the Franxx was used to be really popular?
Yeah, neither do I. Now she's overshadowed by other Cloverworks waifus like Marin and Yor.

It probably helps that Darling in the Franxx had a pretty divisive ending... but obviously, people do remember 02, or it wouldn't make a good example, now would it?

Also, how long since any given Touhou has been in an anime? Those sure seem to still be popular. In fact, I still see K-On and Haruhi stuff. SpyxFamily has been a much-hyped Jump series for several years, now, so I doubt Yor is a flash in the pan, either.

NWSiaCB said:

It probably helps that Darling in the Franxx had a pretty divisive ending... but obviously, people do remember 02, or it wouldn't make a good example, now would it?

Also, how long since any given Touhou has been in an anime? Those sure seem to still be popular. In fact, I still see K-On and Haruhi stuff. SpyxFamily has been a much-hyped Jump series for several years, now, so I doubt Yor is a flash in the pan, either.

Touhou is the mother of all exceptions, no one knows why or how it remains relevant but we all know that it does.

KhorneFlaeks said:

Touhou is the mother of all exceptions, no one knows why or how it remains relevant but we all know that it does.

I still remember Pennyarcade's comic making fun of the "Deep Crow".

Mysticus said:

Remember when 02 from Darling in the Franxx was used to be really popular?
Yeah, neither do I. Now she's overshadowed by other Cloverworks waifus like Marin and Yor.

The waifu ranking correlated with Google statistics disagrees with you.

I always roll my eyes at these types of artworks...

rom_collector said:

The waifu ranking correlated with Google statistics disagrees with you.

I find the methodology questionable. It only counts MyAnimeList (so only anime, no manga or doujin or the like (no Touhou), and only going by western audiences), and it's going by search interest, not whether someone actually likes them. It seems to be a popularity contest for the shows the characters appear in, with weighting going towards animes that are either long-runners or have long cultural staying power.

Bulma, or rather, Dragon Ball Z, being way out in the top slot followed by Cowboy Bebop and Neon Genesis Evangelion and then Sailor Moon before a steep dropoff really reinforces this idea - those are the big long-tail anime that were popular at the time of the start of the time bracket given. (I'd bet if this methodology were applied to both genders, Goku and Vegeta would stomp all others in the "waifu" contest.) A show that introduced new characters in 2020 would need seventeen times the searches per year of Dragon Ball Z to compete.

KhorneFlaeks said:

Touhou is the mother of all exceptions, no one knows why or how it remains relevant but we all know that it does.

Touhou memes are eternal. In this place where things come, go, and are eventually forgotten in mere months, Touhou has lasted literal DECADES.

KhorneFlaeks said:

Touhou is the mother of all exceptions, no one knows why or how it remains relevant but we all know that it does.

Touhou remains relevant because it benefits from a virtuous cycle, fostered by ZUN's lack of stopping doujin works using the name of Touhou, and the fact that releasing a new game every year means it stays relevant while fandoms for anime die down any year there isn't a new season. (The only thing to ever compete on this front are gacha games like Kantai Collection and Fate that expressly tried to copy that success.)

If you're a fledgling artist who wants eyes on your work, you can't get people to look at new IP until you're established. You need to make a work for a series that's established. Audiences only look for doujins of works they know. You can make a doujin about a new show, but Touhou has a bigger, more established following. Having a larger audience means Touhou draws more artists. When all the artists start drawing Touhou, everyone who looks at doujin works eventually asks questions about who all these Touhou characters are, and eventually breaks down and looks up what this whole series is about, and that creates a new audience, which draws more artists, which draws more audience.

NWSiaCB said:

Touhou remains relevant because it benefits from a virtuous cycle, fostered by ZUN's lack of stopping doujin works using the name of Touhou, and the fact that releasing a new game every year means it stays relevant while fandoms for anime die down any year there isn't a new season. (The only thing to ever compete on this front are gacha games like Kantai Collection and Fate that expressly tried to copy that success.)

If you're a fledgling artist who wants eyes on your work, you can't get people to look at new IP until you're established. You need to make a work for a series that's established. Audiences only look for doujins of works they know. You can make a doujin about a new show, but Touhou has a bigger, more established following. Having a larger audience means Touhou draws more artists. When all the artists start drawing Touhou, everyone who looks at doujin works eventually asks questions about who all these Touhou characters are, and eventually breaks down and looks up what this whole series is about, and that creates a new audience, which draws more artists, which draws more audience.

Don't forget the hundreds of incredible music arrangements, exceptionally high quality fangames that have crossed over with nearly every genre and popular series, animations that rival professional commercially made animes, and so many memes.

There are so many different ways to get into Touhou, there's just so much of Touhou on the internet to suck new fans in, while the community just keeps making more. Even if/when ZUN stops making games, it'll take a good bit of time before its popularity fully dies, and depending on how stubborn the community is it may not at all.

NWSiaCB said:

stuff

You find anything questionable unless it's not your (predictable) way. Not saying it's right either, but at least they are making the hard labor and working on them. Unless you make your own with any method you can think of, you have no word in there. Just saying.

EDIT: Also, now you'll tell me a Japanese cartoon like Darling in the Franxx is popular because of a "deep story" and male cast. I couldn't laugh any harder.

rom_collector said:

You find anything questionable unless it's not your (predictable) way. Not saying it's right either, but at least they are making the hard labor and working on them. Unless you make your own with any method you can think of, you have no word in there. Just saying.

EDIT: Also, now you'll tell me a Japanese cartoon like Darling in the Franxx is popular because of a "deep story" and male cast. I couldn't laugh any harder.

Of course your rebuttal is, "You're not allowed to criticize anything until you make your own."

How very like you.

I don't care if Marin is flavor of the month; I'll happily scour as many ice cream parlors as it takes to find that flavor again.

blindVigil said:

Of course your rebuttal is, "You're not allowed to criticize anything until you make your own."

How very like you.

You forgot the other part. Like there are better things to do than sacrifying laboral, schoolar or social aspects in life writing thesis about Japanese cartoons so seriously. Or the part where I mention other opinions (like statistics) state different. I never said they hold a truth so sujective from samples and data elements. As the saying goes, there are three types of lies: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics".

rom_collector said:

You forgot the other part. Like there are better things to do than sacrifying laboral, schoolar or social aspects in life writing thesis about Japanese cartoons so seriously. Or the part where I mention other opinions (like statistics) state different. I never said they hold a truth so sujective from samples and data elements. As the saying goes, there are three types of lies: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics".

The old “it doesn’t matter anyway” card, huh?

Cute.

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The sad part is that Marin is low-key the nicest waifu you'll find out here. She's an honest girl who wants to cosplay her favorite characters. Like every woman that's waifu material has some horrifying drawback, like the Konosuba girls all being D&D characters all gone wrong, Nagatoro being the opposite of Marin (a complete goddamn troll who loves teasing her senpai, as the series suggests), among others.

We literally touched greatness and then forgot it existed.

Oh well. Back to stalking the Hatsune Miku tag.

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Sanic_Hegehog said:

The sad part is that Marin is low-key the nicest waifu you'll find out here. She's an honest girl who wants to cosplay her favorite characters. Like every woman that's waifu material has some horrifying drawback, like the Konosuba girls all being D&D characters all gone wrong, Nagatoro being the opposite of Marin (a complete goddamn troll who loves teasing her senpai, as the series suggests), among others.

This. I really hate it when a prominent, beloved waifu has done terrible things and the series never really addresses it (like Ei from Genshin, or most Touhou characters). Marin having none of that baggage, or not having a personality that would be charming on TV but annoying IRL, is a very refreshing departure from that. Marin is actual lifelong partner material.

Also, despite being a character you'd think would get a lot of Rule 34 (gyaru, friendly and chipper, lewd in canon), the response from Japanese fanartists has been much weaker than from non-Japanese fanartists.

Kirboh said:

Marin is actual lifelong partner material.

She's a cosplayer. By definition, they're worthless, self-absorbed narcs. It's impossible for her to care about anyone else.

Steak said:

She's a cosplayer. By definition, they're worthless, self-absorbed narcs. It's impossible for her to care about anyone else.

Steak coming in with another shitty take on characters he clearly doesn't know shit about.

Steak said:

She's a cosplayer. By definition, they're worthless, self-absorbed narcs. It's impossible for her to care about anyone else.

Did you look in the mirror lately?

"Back in my days we have the thing called Saimoe" Yeah fond memories of waifu wars.

Steak said:

She's a cosplayer. By definition, they're worthless, self-absorbed narcs. It's impossible for her to care about anyone else.

Something tells me that you have no prior knowledge about this series.

Kirboh said:

This. I really hate series where a prominent, beloved waifu has done terrible things and the series never really addresses it (like most Touhou characters). In real life, most girls like that are ones you'd have a one-night stand with, and nothing else.

One night stand!? I'm sorry, but I can't take this slander lying down. Touhou characters are drinking buddies who maybe become "friends with benefits".

Also, despite being a character you'd think would get a lot of Rule 34 (gyaru, friendly and chipper, lewd in canon), the response from Japanese fanartists has been much weaker than from non-Japanese fanartists.

I think it's actually the "lewd in canon" that's shooting her in the foot here. For a lot of people who really get deep into the "waifu" culture, "My Girl Is Not a Slut" is in full force.

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Tsuru5555 said:

Worse.
A few days ago i thought : Who remember Misaka Mikoto anymore ?
as i was browsing Pixiv

There is an artist that did really wholesome yuri images of Misaka x Kuroko of good quality but not on danbooru

She's still pretty popular. A few pictures added a day ain't nutff'n to sneeze at.

Steak said:

She's a cosplayer. By definition, they're worthless, self-absorbed narcs. It's impossible for her to care about anyone else.

This sounds like it has some strange backstory behind it, too specific otherwise...

Damn, so many people here treating these characters as if they are real people. For me, personally, its more as if these characters are androids with hardwired personality imitations, and yet no true AI. As soon as you are done with one, you put it into storage and bring out the new hotness, and there's no sadness to be had since its just a machine with no sentience. Its like that one commercial where someone throws away a lamp and gets a new one, after which the commercial makes it seem like this inanimate lamp feels sadness over this, but the subversion comes when an announcer comes by and reiterates that the thrown-away lamp has no feelings, as it is inanimate, and that the new lamp is much better:

https://youtu.be/dBqhIVyfsRg

and even if one of these characters/androids/objects carry a sentimental value with us, we could always just re-experience their content again.

XionGaTaosenai said:

One night stand!? I'm sorry, but I can't take this slander lying down. Touhou characters are drinking buddies who maybe become "friends with benefits".

Man, I'd be surprised if a one-night stand with an average Touhou character didn't end with you dead, in the middle of a lost forest in the middle of God knows where, eaten, or with your belongings stolen.

I'd be even more surprised if anyone in their right mind would want anything more than a one night stand with an average Touhou character for them to become drinking buddies if you come out intact, pretty sure most of them would fall into the category of "Nice to see them in fictional media, stay away from them if you see them 5k near you."