You faved post #6237516, which counts as changing a character's breast size - from flat to huge. You don't consider that sexist, do you...?
Did you go through his profile just to find something to attack him about that doesn't have anything to do with the picture he was commenting on? Why are you so aggressive to a point that rather than attack his argument, you attack him?
Oh, nevermind, you're the uploader, that's why you're taking it so personally. That's cringe, dude, ngl.
Changing a character's race because you don't like their original race is just racist. All forms of "washing" are racist and always will be.
Disagree, all forms of race-washing are perfectly fine as long as you don't turn the character into a caricature or purposefully try to aggravate people. This Mokou contains all the essential elements of the character, they didn't turn her into an obese blob or anything gross like that.
I am almost positive that is not a legitimate flag reason for this site. Tons of provocative stuff is posted on Danbooru, race changing not against the rules. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure the other post was in reaction to people not liking this one not the other way around. Just down vote please do not throw up superfluous flags.
Just for fairness, I'm suggesting creating a new race_swapped tag so users can just block that tag instead of blocking every single artists in the past, present or future that does so.
Just for fairness, I'm suggesting creating a new race_swapped tag so users can just block that tag instead of blocking every single artists in the past, present or future that does so.
I support that idea. Let's keep the trash in the bin.
There's a lot more going on in this picture than a change in skin color. Also that tag is flooded with tans and fantasy skin colors. Asking users to blacklist 1.6k posts just to avoid less than 100 offending posts is not a solution.
There's a lot more going on in this picture than a change in skin color. Also that tag is flooded with tans and fantasy skin colors. Asking users to blacklist 1.6k posts just to avoid less than 100 offending posts is not a solution.
Of course, because all race swaps definitely qualify for very dark skin. I hope there aren't any tan-skinned race swaps, or that thing you couldn't even format as a search might not actually work. And I suppose we're just not even considering light-skinned race swaps.
Did you go through his profile just to find something to attack him about that doesn't have anything to do with the picture he was commenting on? Why are you so aggressive to a point that rather than attack his argument, you attack him?
Oh, nevermind, you're the uploader, that's why you're taking it so personally. That's cringe, dude, ngl.
I'mm just be a little dumb right now and hop on a soap box:
Why has it consistently been considered bad form to point out someone's weird actions in their profile when they're relevant to what they're saying? Like pointing out someone's history of commenting something opposite to what they're claiming in the moment.
While, yes, I don't entirely agree with Shining's point in this one and wholly disagree with Chole, I do find it strange that you basically shouted "Nay! Loqueris ad hominis!" in response instead of either not engaging or going with a more standard "fuck off". And then do almost the same thing and bring in their status as the uploader.
I just have always found it very odd and I'm just rambling.
And on that third to last sentence's note...
FRien said:
I support that idea. Let's keep the trash in the bin.
Oi, fuck off. You've got years of negs for annoying comments and even when you're surrounded by peers in comment sections like this you still get downvoted. Lay off it.
Why has it consistently been considered bad form to point out someone's weird actions in their profile when they're relevant to what they're saying? Like pointing out someone's history of commenting something opposite to what they're claiming in the moment.
While, yes, I don't entirely agree with Shining's point in this one and wholly disagree with Chole, I do find it strange that you basically shouted "Nay! Loqueris ad hominis!" in response instead of either not engaging or going with a more standard "fuck off". And then do almost the same thing and bring in their status as the uploader.
Because he, as well as certain other users with similar reputations, doesn't care about being fair and rational. He's just looking for excuses to put others down while acting superior for doing exactly what he criticizes them for doing. And this is on top of blatant transphobia and other biases that he thinks we can't see.
Why has it consistently been considered bad form to point out someone's weird actions in their profile when they're relevant to what they're saying? Like pointing out someone's history of commenting something opposite to what they're claiming in the moment.
That's the thing; pointing out people's past statements when they conflict with their current statements was never a problem to begin with. The serial trolls just want it to be a problem. They want to live in an environment where pointing out their lies is more unacceptable than uttering those lies in the first place. Because an environment with no concept of accountability, where it's impossible to distinguish between sincere discussion and trolling, is exactly the sort of environment in which the trolls thrive.
You can see parallels to this in the offline world. Conspiracy theorists and purveyors of pseudoscience regularly attack 'experts' and 'intellectuals' in an attempt to put themselves on equal footing with their critics. Populist politicians, when called out for reversing their positions, attempt to undermine the media's credibility.
When reputation doesn't matter, bad actors have the advantage. They can say whatever they want, and demand that their opponents waste time and energy dismantling each false claim individually, even when the best response would be to notice the pattern of falsehoods all originating from the same source, and block that source entirely.
Sensitive Political Topic aside... this work isn't looking like good quality too. Take all the "Political thing" out, it's still look weirdly not fitted. Probably because Mokou doesn't... look well with that color.
And excuse me for what I have to say, but this work give Mokou tooooooooooo dark color it's extreme to the point of just ruined it.
With that much said, my opinion is likely not the Majority, but this is what I feel.
And if we gonna put some politic... considering another post from same artist with this Black Mokou, I feel like this and that works are probably made out of spite, so this might not be made with intend of making good work but just some "owning bs"
MadlySoldier said: I feel like this and that works are probably made out of sprite, so this might not be made with intend of making good work but just some "owning bs"
Spite. It's 'spite', not sprite.
And yes, most of the race-swapped arts are usually made as 'flame bait' because shit be damned, controversy makes for good publicity. That's why we have specific term 'hatewatching' or 'hateposting': the more you complain about something, the more free advertising they got.
And yes, most of the race-swapped arts are usually made as 'flame bait' because shit be damned, controversy makes for good publicity. That's why we have specific term 'hatewatching' or 'hateposting': the more you complain about something, the more free advertising they got.
According to who, exactly? I'm pretty sure most racebends are and have always been design challenges, which are particularly popular among international artists that want to see what would happen if their favorite characters looked more like them. The commentary of this pic says pretty clearly that this was just a doodle that came out of an oekaki session, not some sinister plot to force racists to attack the artist (as if anyone ever wants that).
According to who, exactly? I'm pretty sure most racebends are and have always been design challenges, which are particularly popular among international artists that want to see what would happen if their favorite characters looked more like them. The commentary of this pic says pretty clearly that this was just a doodle that came out of an oekaki session, not some sinister plot to force racists to attack the artist (as if anyone ever wants that).
You know artist wanting to have a character look like them sound a bit narcissistic when you put it that way, if anything that also makes it sound like they can't relate to a character unless said character looks like them, which is kinda sad. How someone can't empathize with shared experiences and instead the skin tone is the most important thing to them.
You know artist wanting to have a character look like them sound a bit narcissistic when you put it that way, if anything that also makes it sound like they can't relate to a character unless said character looks like them, which is kinda sad. How someone can't empathize with shared experiences and instead the skin tone is the most important thing to them.
"Empathize with shared experiences"? Do you know anyone who got so flippin mad they went and ate a phoenix just because their dad got rejected by some pompous rich bitch? Do you know anyone who's holding onto a thousand year grudge because it's the only thing left in their life, even though they've been over it for ages?
"Empathize with shared experiences"? Do you know anyone who got so flippin mad they went and ate a phoenix just because their dad got rejected by some pompous rich bitch?
Well no, since that part is more of hey while I can't relate to the outlandish thing they just experience I can so relate to the struggle, grief or even happiness regardless of how they look like.
Veraducks said: Why has it consistently been considered bad form to point out someone's weird actions in their profile when they're relevant to what they're saying? Like pointing out someone's history of commenting something opposite to what they're claiming in the moment.
Ad hominem tu quoque and Poisoning The Well. By claiming your opposition engages in similar practices and character assassinating them in front of spectators, respectively, you can make your argument seem better by smearing your opponent with irrelevant information brought up just to make that debater look bad in the eyes of said spectators. Even if his interests in non-canonical breast size is rooted in misogyny, it still doesn’t possess relevancy in whether or not blackwashing Mokou is racist, and thus falls under the spectrum of logical fallacies.
Veraducks said: While, yes, I don't entirely agree with Shining's point in this one and wholly disagree with Chole, I do find it strange that you basically shouted "Nay! Loqueris ad hominis!" in response instead of either not engaging or going with a more standard "fuck off". And then do almost the same thing and bring in their status as the uploader.
Hypocritically, you’ve enacted ad hominem tu quoque yourself, claiming his articulated response was performing the same fallacy as his opponent, and while he did appeal to motive, that still doesn’t invalidate the fallacies of his opponent’s argument.
Because he, as well as certain other users with similar reputations, doesn't care about being fair and rational. He's just looking for excuses to put others down while acting superior for doing exactly what he criticizes them for doing. And this is on top of blatant transphobia and other biases that he thinks we can't see.
Wow, you’re an even worse offender than the previous guy, making even more extensive use of appeal to motive than he did. Regardless of whether he’s biased towards transgender individuals and race swappers or not, that alone doesn’t invalidate his points, and neither does engaging in similar practices. The sole purpose of bringing up comment history is to demean your opponent, debating the man rather than the point
Oh, you are by far the WORST offender here. It doesn’t matter if he’s a bad actor, a conspiracy theorist, a practitioner of pseudosciences, a serial internet troll or an undercover politician. That has NOTHING to do with his point, the sole purpose of associating him with all of these boogeyman groups is to character assassinate the debater rather than address his point, alongside claiming he did the same wrongs as others.
iridescent_slime said: When reputation doesn't matter, bad actors have the advantage
Please tell me how an even playing field gives anyone a new advantage. Please explain how disregarding the personal fiber of debaters and spectators, in order to focus on the arguments being presented, in any way gives one an advantage over the other. Meanwhile, please inform me how allowing the perceptive bias of others, whether that bias is warranted or not, gives anyone any degree of fairness in a debate.
iridescent_slime said: They can say whatever they want, and demand that their opponents waste time and energy dismantling each false claim individually, even when the best response would be to notice the pattern of falsehoods all originating from the same source, and block that source entirely.
And you end your tirade by arguing that instead of explaining why they’re wrong, which at the very least, would explain to onlookers why such points are falsehoods, the true solution is to ignore said individuals or, if I’m not mistaken, censor them. What even?
I don't care what your goal is if your means make you unpleasant. Unlike Blindvigil, I won't encourage you to be a pest because I think you're doing the right thing : I'll still call you a pest and mock you until you stop spamming. So stop spamming.
I don't care what your goal is if your means make you unpleasant. Unlike Blindvigil, I won't encourage you to be a pest because I think you're doing the right thing : I'll still call you a pest and mock you until you stop spamming. So stop spamming.
I responded to three seperate counter-arguments, how does that constitute spamming?
I responded to three seperate counter-arguments, how does that constitute spamming?
I guess because there is nothing merit from your comments, people are just done with this, until you came in and continuing this nonsense. How about you drop it and move on, is that so hard?
I guess because there is nothing of* merit from your comments, people are just done with this, until you came in and continuing this nonsense. How about you drop it and move on, is that so hard?