Ignoring the improbable reason for it happening, regenerating a leg should be child's play. There's magic, myth, immortality, gods and other such beings that have control over comsic aspects all abound in that place and you're telling me not one can restore her leg?
Explosion said: Ignoring the improbable reason for it happening, regenerating a leg should be child's play. There's magic, myth, immortality, gods and other such beings that have control over comsic aspects all abound in that place and you're telling me not one can restore her leg?
Just seems like more melodrama.
1. Magic cannot solve everything 2. Myth, same as above 3. Sakuya refuse immortality 4. Have read WAHH 5. Human's leg =/= Lizard's tail (They won't grow back, no matter how long you're waiting) 6. Even if you ask Moriya faction, they will probably come at the same solution: "make her an artificial leg" (by the helps of Kappa, ofc)
Anelaid said: Touhou is all about scenarios, not the most efficient use of magic.
If it were about the latter, Reimu would be an unstoppable force of destruction.
You know, somebody could use this argument as proof that Touhou has shitty writing. Some argues that a setting should have a consistent internal rule, and the plot must bow down to that rule.
Nero3X said: Er... You have Mokou, just ask her for a leg, it grows back next morning
But it's very likely that it gets rejected. Also, that is wrong with a artifical leg created by Alice? Just think how many blades Sakuya could hide into it!
Shin-Houin said: 5. Human's leg =/= Lizard's tail (They won't grow back, no matter how long you're waiting)
Uhh, not to disapoint, but they've recently proven this wrong. You give the body the correct nutrients (a type of which not commonly found in the required amounts in the human body) and it'll regenerate every single cell in the body's bio-map (barring damage to that bio-map which occurs via brain damage) in 7 years, including lost limbs. So Eirin should be able to heal a lost limb in a matter of a few moments, what since the Lunarians are supposed to be thousands of years ahead of humanity. (Take available experimental technology and envelop upon the concept. Voila, Lunarian Tech.) They've tested this on lab-rats and it worked with them too, the US Gov was looking at using this to help the vets out, but where the funding went... (That's also where I found out about this, I know a lot of Vets and apparently one of their magazines featured an article on the subject...)
Shin-Houin said: 1. Magic cannot solve everything 2. Myth, same as above 3. Sakuya refuse immortality 4. Have read WAHH 5. Human's leg =/= Lizard's tail (They won't grow back, no matter how long you're waiting) 6. Even if you ask Moriya faction, they will probably come at the same solution: "make her an artificial leg" (by the helps of Kappa, ofc)
Wild and Horned Hermit pretty clearly establishes that no, you can't just regrow limbs. Otherwise, Kasen would've replaced the missing arm she's obviously very self-conscious about long ago. It stands to reason that if Kasen (who is almost assuredly an oni) cannot regrow the lost limb, then Sakuya (who is simply human) most certainly cannot.
Lightdreamer said: You know, somebody could use this argument as proof that Touhou has shitty writing. Some argues that a setting should have a consistent internal rule, and the plot must bow down to that rule.
Eh, but what do I know about good writing anyway?
It would be shitty writing if touhou took itself seriously, but given that its a largely tongue-in-cheek affair about girls shooting danmaku at each other for the most silly of reason, people are over-analyzing the nature of magic in touhou.
If I was going to cite the 'canon', there are probably limits on what can be done with magic, after all, a lot of magicians end up going youkai because the use of magic has serious side-effects on the human body ( I think one of the books mentioned that Patchouli has a lot of metal poisoning in her body because of her use of elemental magic).
thatothersting said: Wild and Horned Hermit pretty clearly establishes that no, you can't just regrow limbs. Otherwise, Kasen would've replaced the missing arm she's obviously very self-conscious about long ago. It stands to reason that if Kasen (who is almost assuredly an oni) cannot regrow the lost limb, then Sakuya (who is simply human) most certainly cannot.
...Limb regeneration is a high pinnacle of Medical Science Kasen is an Oni Hermit. Oni generally reject modern Human Science, Hermits (of any race) Reject it by default as it tampers with the natural method. …Not to mention that missing a limb doesn’t exactly seem to be a technical bother to Kasen at all (aside from self-consiousness, which is natural), what being able to grab things at a great distance with her missing arm. Sometimes you keep embarrassing things due to applied value or what the embarrassment itself means to you (like determination for revenge or whatnot). ...Aside, my argument was that Eiren could re-grow Sakuya’s leg, a point which hadn’t been raised before.
Magic only delves into Limb-Regeneration in Necromancy, a Taboo Art to common Magicians [Patchy included], which expanded since its early days to include any magic that tampers with the [human] body in general. This is with the exception of God-tier Healing magic, which no Touhou character has access to (possibly excluding Byakuren). Remember that Shinto Gods are limited in their capabilities… Ironically, Alice is a Doll-Magician, which is a preset to Necromancy, and generally Doll-Magicians couldn't care less about Taboo (what ‘perfection’ and all)... come on, we've all seen Alice doujin have her cross this line. So, in defense of the Author, it's not that far into the woods to have Patchy, a magician, immediately think of Alice to fix a missing limb, regardless of other alternatives. Plus the SDM doesn’t like the Moon People in the first place.
Of course, it’s been a while since I read any of WAHH so, I admit, my memory of it sort of foggy at best. Thus, if WAHH specifically states that limb-regeneration is entirely impossible in a way that it’s not merely reflecting that it’s impossible for Kasen herself, then please tell me where so I can correct my take on canon. That would be much obliged.
Owmyhead said: Of all the ridiculous premises set forth in countless other Touhou doujin, THIS is the one you guys feel the need to argue about?
Yes, this all honestly is very silly, but ‘peaceful discord’ (debate, in other words) can be a rather engaging pursuit at times. So, as long as things remain civil, the real question isn’t ‘why are you arguing over this’, the real question is ‘why not?’
grand_zero said: So, as long as things remain civil, the real question isn’t ‘why are you arguing over this’, the real question is ‘why not?’
Because it'll make us look kind of silly.
Really, this reminds me of those power level debates of the Enterprise vs the Death Star. They all use technical jargons that I don't understand so it's obvious that the people discussing it are adults. And should adults be discussing that?
Lightdreamer said: Because it'll make us look kind of silly.
Really, this reminds me of those power level debates of the Enterprise vs the Death Star. They all use technical jargons that I don't understand so it's obvious that the people discussing it are adults. And should adults be discussing that?
Emphasizing on "as long as things remain civil" So, its fine. I saw lots of adults debating on cigar taste, movies, or something more insignificant and no problem. ________________________________
As for growing limb(s). It might regrow, but I doubt it would be as same as it should be.
Lightdreamer said: Because it'll make us look kind of silly.
Really, this reminds me of those power level debates of the Enterprise vs the Death Star. They all use technical jargons that I don't understand so it's obvious that the people discussing it are adults. And should adults be discussing that?
Making yourself look silly for your own entertainment is hardly something that should be called depricative, so that remains the choice of the would-be debators.
As for the Enterprise vs the Death Star, that actually makes some bit of sense as to why thered be a debate about that among intelectuals as they're both 'hypothetically possible' constructs according to their own fanbase.
Where things really get silly is when you have Touhou power level debates... you want to see some adults act like little children, go find one of those...
I've read a debate about Mokou vs Okuu where they ended up trying to use Nuclear Physics as their backing... I mean, nuclear physics in a world where logic and common sense apparently mean nothing. ...And I'm not referring to the similar debate that you can find here on Danbooru either (post #705603), although that is one example...