Did my best, but there are lot of it I still cannot translate properly and I'll leave Iowa and Roma's line to those who can expressed them in american and italian dialect better.
Actually, in Italy, pizza is more often eaten with beer, or chinotto, than with wine. And Roma is named after the city of Rome, were, other than the round pizza, usually eaten for dinner, sitting at the table of a pizzeria, PIZZA IS THE LOCAL FAST FOOD/STREET FOOD TOO, served in rectangular slices, sold by weight, in a miriad (there are thousands of them scattered throughout the city) of small specialized bakeries that usually cook it in an electric owen, and eaten standing or walking. Google "pizza al taglio" to see what I mean. Other than this (and the fact that there is not an "Italian style pizza" and an "American style pizza", but the Italian pizza and some cheap imitation ;) ), the pic is great.
*While pissing myself in fear* Ye-YES I AM!!!! Don't Make Me Say It Twice; I LOVE THEM BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . . . C'mon, my foot! I need to run away from this hell hole already!! ㅠ.ㅠ
One of the key differences is the use of the mozzarella. Italian pizzas tend to use whole mozz that comes in a round glob, while american pizzas use dried and shredded mozz.
You can actually see the artist drew how tearing up a mozz glob into a pizza doesnt cover the whole pizza, but forms little cheese-magma pools instead. Thats good detail.
I've only been to a few places that use the stuff; it's pretty rare to see a place that dresses up a pizza like that.
National chains like Dominos and Pizza Hut suck. You want good pizza, local chains and/or mom n pop shops are the way to go.
Yup. And it's better if you have to wait a while, just to NC and sure it's a fresh pizza. And I like both NY and Chicago style, but Margherita is simply divine.
Blindga said:
One of the key differences is the use of the mozzarella. Italian pizzas tend to use whole mozz that comes in a round glob, while american pizzas use dried and shredded mozz.
You can actually see the artist drew how tearing up a mozz glob into a pizza doesnt cover the whole pizza, but forms little cheese-magma pools instead. Thats good detail.
I've only been to a few places that use the stuff; it's pretty rare to see a place that dresses up a pizza like that.
Nagumo appears to be a foodie, which is why his Akagi is one too (versus being Kirby who cares not for the quality).
And yes, they whole mozzarella is on another completely with pizza.
One of the key differences is the use of the mozzarella. Italian pizzas tend to use whole mozz that comes in a round glob, while american pizzas use dried and shredded mozz.
You can actually see the artist drew how tearing up a mozz glob into a pizza doesnt cover the whole pizza, but forms little cheese-magma pools instead. Thats good detail.
I've only been to a few places that use the stuff; it's pretty rare to see a place that dresses up a pizza like that.
one thing more, the italian pizza (is we speak about the one you eat in a restaurant) is prepared usually by someone which has frequented a school. There is a true and proper school of pizza in the italian cousine, and only frequenting it you can be considered a "Master"; and this is not just a mere title, since most of the more famouses restaurants in Italy refuse to take a new pizza-maker if he's not a Master. Alternatively, one can study with a Master, and then receive his blessing, which despite not being the same thing like obtain a true mastership is pratically like be a Master yourself.
Italian pizza is overrated according to one guy I heard from. Then again, he may not have eaten at the right places.
Blindga said:
One of the key differences is the use of the mozzarella. Italian pizzas tend to use whole mozz that comes in a round glob, while american pizzas use dried and shredded mozz.
You can actually see the artist drew how tearing up a mozz glob into a pizza doesnt cover the whole pizza, but forms little cheese-magma pools instead. Thats good detail.
I've only been to a few places that use the stuff; it's pretty rare to see a place that dresses up a pizza like that.
I had a pizza like that once. Not really much else to that technique other than tasty cheese.
Delivery pizza in murica is also frequently used as comfort food. I know I and about 50 other guys had the shittiest Saturday ever pouring the cement for a clarifier at a water treatment plant, and by the end of it I would have straight up murdered the next motherfucker who stepped into my field of view. Then the pizza showed up and all was well.
I consider pizza in the United States to be more authentic than anything in Italy. It was in America that pizza was "reborn" as it should have been with the right ingredients in plentiful supply. The skimpiness based on a culture of poverty where the poor created "something" out of nothing does not appeal to me at all.
I consider pizza in the United States to be more authentic than anything in Italy. It was in America that pizza was "reborn" as it should have been with the right ingredients in plentiful supply. The skimpiness based on a culture of poverty where the poor created "something" out of nothing does not appeal to me at all.
Then feel fry to give life again to french fries, as it's likely a dish borne in a tradition of poverty as well.
Just give them new names as well next time.
Also, in Italy roughly a third of the population os overweight or obese, compared to over two thirds of the population of the USA. "Poverty" culture FTW!
I consider pizza in the United States to be more authentic than anything in Italy. It was in America that pizza was "reborn" as it should have been with the right ingredients in plentiful supply. The skimpiness based on a culture of poverty where the poor created "something" out of nothing does not appeal to me at all.
Given how you threat "tacos" (that in truth are quesadillas), now I have doubts about your words. "Riches" have really bad taste.
I consider pizza in the United States to be more authentic than anything in Italy. It was in America that pizza was "reborn" as it should have been with the right ingredients in plentiful supply. The skimpiness based on a culture of poverty where the poor created "something" out of nothing does not appeal to me at all.
from an Italian extremely proud of his heritage... FUCK YOU AND GO TO HELL!!!!
Also, in Italy roughly a third of the population os overweight or obese, compared to over two thirds of the population of the USA. "Poverty" culture FTW!
Let's see, you're a history nerd, and you don't realize that the reason pasta is essentially the core dish in Italy is because the people were trying to make do with only a few ingredients?
rom_collector said:
Given how you threat "tacos" (that in truth are quesadillas), now I have doubts about your words. "Riches" have really bad taste.
I'm not American, so don't ask me about Tex-Mex. Not a big fan of that particular cuisine style.
CJ_Spencer said:
from an Italian extremely proud of his heritage... FUCK YOU AND GO TO HELL!!!!
That explains why it was only in the 1970s, when tourists were asking for pizza, that Italians outside of Napoli bothered to consider pizza in their menu. It was a small regional dish that spread to the rest of Italy due to popularity from the outside, with its epicenter in the United States.
Your pride is pretty flimsy when you don't even know the history of what you supposedly have pride in. Typical.
Let's see, you're a history nerd, and you don't realize that the reason pasta is essentially the core dish in Italy is because the people were trying to make do with only a few ingredients?
I'm not American, so don't ask me about Tex-Mex. Not a big fan of that particular cuisine style.
That explains why it was only in the 1970s, when tourists were asking for pizza, that Italians outside of Napoli bothered to consider pizza in their menu. It was a small regional dish that spread to the rest of Italy due to popularity from the outside, with its epicenter in the United States.
Your pride is pretty flimsy when you don't even know the history of what you supposedly have pride in. Typical.
Are you italian? I suppose not! So DON'T DARE TO SPEAK ME ABOUT MY HERITAGE!!! MY GRAND-GRANDMOTHER PREPARED PIZZA IN VENICE BEFORE MUSSOLINI, SO KEEP THIS NONSENSES FOR YOURSELF AND SEARCH SOMEONE ELSE TO ANNOY WITH YOUR "US IS THE BEST"!
SumeragiAkeiko said: Let's see, you're a history nerd, and you don't realize that the reason pasta is essentially the core dish in Italy is because the people were trying to make do with only a few ingredients?
Did I say anything about it?
I just pointed out the irony about the fact that the "rich culture" contributed to what has been recognized some 20 years ago as a global epidemic, while what you contemptuously called a "poverty culture" turned out to yield significantly different results.
Anyway, if you find appeal and sensory satisfaction only in "plentiful ingredients", then I feel just pity for you.
Let's see, you're a history nerd, and you don't realize that the reason pasta is essentially the core dish in Italy is because the people were trying to make do with only a few ingredients?
I'm not American, so don't ask me about Tex-Mex. Not a big fan of that particular cuisine style.
That explains why it was only in the 1970s, when tourists were asking for pizza, that Italians outside of Napoli bothered to consider pizza in their menu. It was a small regional dish that spread to the rest of Italy due to popularity from the outside, with its epicenter in the United States.
Your pride is pretty flimsy when you don't even know the history of what you supposedly have pride in. Typical.
Apart the fact that if you want pizza you must go in a "pizzeria" and in most restaurant there's not pizza but other diahes, there's no way that US is/were the epicenter of the pizza. First, the epicenter should be italian emigrants themselves, who spread the pizza in different times in the countries they went. Second, american pizza is so different than the italian one that it should not even be called pizza, it should have another name. Third, the pizza spread in italy immediatly after the second world war (even a little before), not in the 70s because of tourists.
Speaking about history, you're not italian, you've probably never bothered seriously about italy in general, yet you speak like you know all about the country.
Let's see, you're a history nerd, and you don't realize that the reason pasta is essentially the core dish in Italy is because the people were trying to make do with only a few ingredients?
To use few ingredients of good quality and let them remain recognizable is the base of the Italian cuisine, even when the ingredients are truffles. Complex sauces that covers every flavor are a thing for North Europeans. To fill everything with the cheapest saturated fats available is a thing for North Americans. To mistake the cheapest saturated fats around for "the right ingredients" Is a thing for SumeragiAkeiko.
That explains why it was only in the 1970s, when tourists were asking for pizza, that Italians outside of Napoli bothered to consider pizza in their menu. It was a small regional dish that spread to the rest of Italy due to popularity from the outside, with its epicenter in the United States.
It took long to you to invent this tale? Pizza spreaded throughout Italy just after WWII, assuming different regional styles that have a thing in common. They are completely different to what the Americans call "pizza".
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Having a big oven in a household is a common thing in America.Only the dough has been bakedIt is standard to eat with fork and knife. But there aren't any strict manner of eating.Way of bakingFolded into four when eating at a street stall.Italian style
PizzaPit-tsaThe temperature in the oven is 400~500 Celsius. Takes about 60~90 seconds to be cooked completely.What is pizza like in Japan?Selling sliced pizza is a standard thing in New York.Way of eatingCroquettes, fried eggplants and other fried food are the standard side menu.Way of eatingUse pizza cutter to cut pizzas into slices, hold the slice and eat. Usually eaten together with other people during parties and such.Baked with stone oven. There aren't any in the household, so usually it is eaten outside.Basically, a serving of pizza is only for one person. They don't share it. It is the same as with how Japanese don't share ramen. Usually eaten during light meals or supper.Generally crushed dry capsicum is sprinkled on pizza. Sometimes tabasco is used, but rarely.Adding cheese and other stuffs.What is pizza like in Japan?Way of bakingThe (real) differences between Pizza and Pizza.
For disambiguation, American Pizza will be marked in bold, Italian Pizza will be marked in italics (Get it?).Spread tomato sauceAmerican style
PizzaPee-zahBigger than Italian ones. Usually with radius of 50 cm.Must be served without being sliced. (slicing will cause pizza to go cold and lose flavors)An Italian Restuarant.The edge is crunchy, the middle is springy dough.
You're expected to [enjoy the dough]. Tomato, mozzarella cheese, basil, etc is used, the finishing touch is simplicity.You can pour some olive oil that's been steeped with red peppers or garlic on it.IOh! So I didn't need to dress up to go eat it.A[Pizzeria] or [Napoli style] (=Restaurants specializing in Pizza) should be written on the restaurant.Delivery pizza such as Domino's Pizza, Pizza-la and Pizza Hut.Delivery pizza service is highly developed. They deliver pizza not only to the house, but to parks and other places outside.Baked by using an oven (sometimes a frying pan is used). The moisture evaporates, and the pizza can become firm easily.The result of the Americanization of the Italian pizza that immigrants brought with them.
In New York, 1905, the first pizzeria in the United States was opened.
Until then, pizza was only eaten by those of Italian blood, but it spread throughout the United States and became a national food after World War II.Dough that's thick and fluffy like bread.
One is expected to [enjoy the ingredients], so anything goes when it comes to toppings.Evolved from focaccia originally.
Sometime during the 1660's, the first pizza was made in Naples (Napoli).
In 1830, the first ever pizzeria was opened in Naples.
1889 marks the birth of the classic pizza, the Margerita.
Second sentence's -らしき means that the first pizza wasn't exactly what the Neapolitan pizza is todayLatter half of the 19th CenturyI've got no interest in eating that sort of pizza.What is with that weird pizza!!OriginCreation