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Seeing as we have a bespectacled tag (which is for characters who aren't normally wearing glasses), what would you think of a tag for characters that are depicted with animal ears, but don't normally have them? This could include other animal-like features, not just animal_ears.
Examples: post #576765; post #584767; post #437184; post #543153
At the moment, I can't quite think of a suitable name for such a tag. But, do you think that this would be a decent idea?
Updated by Bapabooiee
Well, that would then sort of imply that having animal ears would be some kind of a modal ability - and those kinds of characters that sport that ability would not be suitable candidates for the tag, since it must be someone who never has any in any normal circumstance.
In any case, it's a good start, as 'kemonomimi' is essentially a contracted (Japanese) version of animal_ears. And the less underscores a tag has, the better :]
Anyway, anyone else have any thoughts about this?
Updated by Bapabooiee
The only advantage I can see this giving is the ability to better distinguish if the animal_ears tag is present because of another character in the image rather than the one the searcher is looking for. (And it still wouldn't work all of the time) Do we really need to that specific?
Just saying. If you think we do, whatever, go for it.
kemonomimi is currently aliased to animal_ears, by the way, so if you want to use that you'd have to have the alias undone. I personally prefer kemonomimi_mode, but not for any specific reason.
Updated by Kayako
Kayako said: The only advantage I can see this giving is the ability to better distinguish if the animal_ears tag is present because of another character in the image rather than the one the searcher is looking for.
I'm probably having a massive brain fart right now, but I'm not completely sure I understand what you're trying to say. I keep on re-reading it, but it doesn't make much sense to me. Could you please clarify?
kemonomimi is currently aliased to animal_ears, by the way, so if you want to use that you'd have to have the alias undone.
Oh, I wasn't implying that kemonomimi should be used as the tag name. I should've been clearer on that. And as you said, kemonomimi is already aliased to animal_ears, so it's not going anywhere (plus, it wouldn't even make sense to change it to anything else).
I'm also liking kemonomimi_mode, too. But I'm convinced a more suitable name can still be found (providing that we can agree that having this tag is even a good idea in the first place).
Bapabooiee said:
I'm probably having a massive brain fart right now, but I'm not completely sure I understand what you're trying to say. I keep on re-reading it, but it doesn't make much sense to me. Could you please clarify?
Normally, if you want to see a certain character with or without animal ears, you can search either (name)+animal_ears or (name) -animal_ears. For what you want, it'd be the former. The only thing about doing this is that you're bound to get some group pictures where the animal_ears tag refers to another character in the image rather than the one you were looking for. Of course, if you're privileged or above, you can just add chartags:1 to the search to get images of only that character.
What I was saying is that the only thing that creating a "not normally animal-eared" tag would do is make it so that (name)+newtag searches are a little less likely to return the aforementioned unwanted group pictures. Still though, it wouldn't be foolproof. So I don't really see the point.
Was that any clearer? I'm running on little sleep here so I might not be very coherent.
The logic is the same as bespectacled and makes sense from that standpoint, yes. And this is common enough that it might be worth making a tag for, although it shouldn't be taken too far of course. There could be any number of these, s they need to be kept with the most common tags.
No idea what tag name to use, though.
Hillside_Moose said: I don't see the point. A combination search works fine, unless if someone can convince me that the noise ratio between {character+animal_ears} and {character+newtag} is significant enough to warrant the new tag.
It's a far, far more common combination than bespectacled and the logic behind that one wasn't seriously challenged. I don't think I'd accept anything less common than bespectacled though.
The animal_ears tag obviously needs no changing, so would it be better to use kemonomimi_mode or animal_ears_mode? I'm not picky about which, at the moment.
The tag name was based on the old nekomimi_mode thing from Tsukiyomi: Moon Phase, so maybe merging the two tags would be a good idea.
kemonomimi_mode is a good name. As for a merger, I'd say leave it alone, since there are many posts under nekomimi_mode which refer specifically to Tsukuyomi.
I can't decide if the tie-in to the Tsukuyomi meme is an advantage or a disadvantage for a general tag but I guess I'm leaning advantage. So as far as I'm concerned, tag away. We can always alias it if we think of a better name later, the important thing for now is just getting them all under some tag.
I agree on not merging them. nekomimi_mode is a specific meme tag. But it would be appropriate to see an image with both tags. There are probably a few instances that would prohibit an implication though.
If you ask me, I don't think the exactitude is particularly important in this case. Since this is a general tag, and does not describe any particular name for something where the correctness is important, I think just finding a fairly intuitive name is more important than being correct.
Plus, for the uninitiated, animal_eared's meaning could very well be mistaken for being the same as animal_ears. Of course, the Wiki would explain the distinction, but maybe it'd just be better to have a less ambiguous tag name instead.
And meh, either way, I'm still not sure what the perfect name should be. But I think kemonomimi_mode is at least a good start. But that is debatable, of course.
