LaC said:
I think "girls love" sounds very ambiguous. I don't know where people got the idea that "yuri" implies "porn", but the meaning can be clarified in the wiki.
What they say in Japan, I don't really know, but I go to Yaoi Con, and the three terms I seen thrown around all the time yaoi, shounen ai, and shota. Yaoi means there's sex. Shounen ai doesn't have sex, or at least doesn't have graphic sex or something. This is probably why so many people associate yuri with the implication of sex.
Unfortunately, I sometimes wonder if the people who really really need to read the wiki actually do.
But you're right: in Japan yuri doesn't in imply sex, and given the fact that we have a system for ratings here, we don't need more than one tag for questionable and safe yuri vs explicit yuri.
That said, if we're going to change it, really now ... girls love? That's a direct translation of the words shoujo ai, and the yuri communities I browse tend to either say yuri or shoujo ai, but rarely would use the term girls love, probably because most of us are weeaboos.
LaC said:
In practical terms, if someone thinks "yuri" implies sex, he'll tag his uploads of pictures of tribadism as "yuri", but not his pictures of girls kissing. Would an alias to "girls_love" make him any more likely to tag both as such? I don't think so; it seems more likely that, once he sees "yuri" turns into "girls_love", he'll just carry over his idea of an implicit sexual connotation to the new term.
I think you're probably right that they'd just use whatever meaning they used before.
Swift said:
I always assumed the 2girls tag to mean, well, literally, two girls in one picture. Should I start retagging my uploads yet?
There's a fair deal of girls cuddling, holding hands, or kissing, too. Whatever the definition of the tag may be, it's being used far too literally, or _something_. I'm under the impression it's meant for seemingly platonic images of girls together.
However, if we take 2girls literally as being an image with 2girls in it, it overlaps with almost every yuri image on the site, and misses images like post #23830 , which I sure would want to see when looking for whatever we call not necessarily platonic seeming images between girls because that makes me _squeal_.
So I think we either have lots of overlap between 2girls and safe yuri, tagging some images as both, or we try to decide on some line where it goes from being tagged with 2girls to being tagged with yuri/girls_love/whatever_we're_going_to_call_it_now. Unfortunately, I don't think we can come up with a distinction that isn't really ambiguous.
If it seems like I'm trying to tailor these terms to my preferences too much, please tell me. I'm really just trying to give my opinion of someone who keeps track of the several yuri communities.
