Danbooru

Regarding 2girls, 3girls, 4girls ...

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I didn't realize until just now that we have 3girls and 4girls, and... isn't this a little ridiculous? I mean, where do we stop? Can we just... replace it all with a tag like... "girls" ? For images of more than one or something?

In fact, 2girls definition has always been really fuzzy anyway. What about a tag like "platonic" instead for images of two or more people together in an entirely non-sexual and non-romantic context? That even covers images that happen to have guys, and then we could be rid of a tag like girls because platonic would give you all of those group of people images that wasn't somehow romantic. Plus we'd also have a means of searching romantically themed images that weren't yuri images.

Updated by memento mori

Honestly, your suggestion is more ridiculous than the existing tags.

You are aware that you can search for an image without a tag, right? For example, "2girls -yuri"? Instead of creating unnecessary and equivocal tags like "platonic"?

I figure that 3girls or above would be a least-common search (assuming people pay attention to the tags, which according to recent comments, many don't) if people are actually looking for pictures of multiple girls. I think most people would search for "yuri", and if they see the "2girls" tag, would leave it at that.

here let me explain it for you in stupid:

yuri is a tag used for two girls in a relationship or sexual situation

2girls is a tag used for two girls not in a relationship or sexual situation.

These tags are completely opposite and if you are seeing images tagged with both they are tagged incorrectly.

Let me amend that a bit - yuri is a tag used for two or more girls in a relationship or sexual situation. 2girls is a tag used for exactly two girls not in a relationship or sexual situation. Thus they're not "completely opposite", actually.

So is there any reason to not change 2girls to platonic? By doing so, you'd have a tag with a clearer definition, one that would extend to platonic situations involving male or female characters together, and get rid of 3girls, 4girls...

lichifruit said:
So is there any reason to not change 2girls to platonic? By doing so, you'd have a tag with a clearer definition, one that would extend to platonic situations involving male or female characters together, and get rid of 3girls, 4girls...

homeless_homo said:
There will be a time where you will want to find an image with three girls in it. Only then will you understand why.

0xCCBA696 said:
Let me amend that a bit - yuri is a tag used for two or more girls in a relationship or sexual situation. 2girls is a tag used for exactly two girls not in a relationship or sexual situation. Thus they're not "completely opposite", actually.

So, just to make sure, this means I can go remove the 2girls -tag from pretty much all rating:e posts that have it, as well posts tagged with both 2girls and yuri - confirm?

The whole ambiguity regarding what the 2girls tag exactly is and isn't has always been slightly bugging me, since as I recall from the previous discussion it was basically summed up to be "a tag for people who'd want to stick yuri on anything and everything, but that really isn't", but somewhere along the line of its existance it evidently turned into tag with the literal criteria of "2 girls", or something?

I think this has just gone down the wrong direction. The 2girls tag should be used for any image with two girls in it, regardless of the rating. You should just go ahead and make a separate platonic tag for images of girls that are not sexual. If anything because a platonic tag would be used for images regardless of the number of girls in them and 2girls limits the number for the image at 2girls.

The Xgirls tags are not useless, they allow people to search for a specific number of girls and to make a tag such as 2girls only for images of 2 girls who are not in sexual situations is just silly. What happens when you want to search for yuri images with only 2 girls or 3 girls, or 4 girls? The Xgirls tags should be expanded in usage, not narrowed in what they're used for. What some of you guys are after clearly fits in a whole separate tag that has no limitation of the number of girls in it, so this whole convert 2girls into 2 girls in a platonic relationship just makes zero sense.

It'd be honestly better with a separate platonic tag and having the Xgirls tags. You want images of yuri with X number of girls you just search for "yuri Xgirls." You want images of X number of girls not in yuri/sexual images you type "platonic Xgirls."

anything above 3 or 4girls aliased to something like multiple_girls, maybe?

the highest tag we have is 6girls, which only has one picture, and 5girls only has 6, so it's not like this is that serious, anyway.

2girls and 3girls are useful, so I suggest we keep them as a girl counter. Beyond that, it probably makes sense to use everyone (formerly group).

4 girls is also around the point where I stop tagging the individual characteristics of each of the girls in the group, and start tagging what they have in common. (For example, 4 girls with blue hair would get blue_hair, but a range of hair colors wouldn't get an _hair tag.)

I agree with tomomaru, the most useful are most likely the 2girls and 3girls tag, though I think the multiple_girls tag sould be used for more than 3girls (if you draw the line there). This is mostly because the everyone tag doesn't have a specific number for how many females are in the group just that a significant portion of the cast is represented so there are images with fewer than 3 girls in the mix.

Personally I think I'd go up to even 5 girls, since I don't think 4-5 key females isn't that uncommon in shows (thus there will be artwork depicting them as a group), though at that point as was said you could just go with using both a multiple_females and everyone tag (which probably makes a lot more sense).

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