Update curtain-related tags

BUR #42428 is pending approval.

create implication print_curtains -> curtains
create implication lace_curtains -> curtains
create implication floating_curtains -> curtains
create implication closed_curtains -> curtains
create implication behind_curtains -> curtains
create implication opening_curtains -> curtains
create implication blood_on_curtains -> curtains
nuke pleated_curtains
create alias lifting_curtains -> opening_curtains
create alias sheer_curtains -> see-through_curtains
create alias translucent_curtains -> see-through_curtains

print_curtains, lace_curtains, floating_curtains, closed_curtains, behind_curtains, opening_curtains, blood_on_curtains should implicate curtains, like other curtain tags.
I'm a little mixed on even keeping blood_on_curtains, since it's applied to so few posts. But, it seems useful enough for searching, and if it's going to be around, it should properly imply the general curtain tag.

pleated_curtains is applied to only 7 posts. The curtains are just regular curtains, and don't have a distinct pleat where the fabric has been pressed or stitched together. I think this makes the tag ambiguous with the regular curtains tag. an alternative to removing the tag could be aliasing the tag to curtains.

lifting_curtains is applied to only 3 posts. I think it should be aliased to opening_curtains to make both tags more searchable and useful, even though this does destroy some information and make the tag slightly broader.

sheer_curtains and translucent_curtains should be aliased to see-through_curtains for convenience when tagging, so that "sheer" or "translucent" will bring up the correct tag if the user doesn't know it.

Finally, there are some curtain colour tags that we should decide what to do with. By my count these are brown_curtains, grey_curtains, and aqua_curtains, each with a handful of posts. If we want to have curtain colour tags at all, then we should probably have a full set of colours. We could also reasonably separate curtains into "white" and "solid colour" tags, as a majority of curtains are white, or choose not to have tags for curtain colours at all. if the colour tags continue to exist, they should imply the general curtains tag, of course.

BUR #42429 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias holding_curtain -> curtain_grab
create alias pulling_curtains -> curtain_grab

pulling_curtains and holding_curtain both have very few posts, and those are indistinguishable from curtain_grab. It makes sense to me to roll them into curtain_grab and have only one tag about characters grasping curtains. sorry for missing this in my above BUR.

I've also found another curtain colour tag, yellow_curtain. if the colour tags stick around, they should be consistent, so the singular version should alias to the plural or vice-versa.

my two cents is that the curtain color tags should probably be nuked / deprecated. they seem extremely niche and i don't know who is realistically going to be searching for specific curtain colors.

MysteriousLounger said:

sorry for missing this in my above BUR.

it's actually preferable to split large burs into smaller chunks due to the all-or-nothing nature of burs.

Kaleidoscoped said:

my two cents is that the curtain color tags should probably be nuked / deprecated. they seem extremely niche and i don't know who is realistically going to be searching for specific curtain colors.

I think that's perfectly reasonable. I think they should preferably be deprecated so that a zealous user trying to tag every last thing, can find that they are already deprecated and shouldn't be re-created. I think for this purpose it makes sense to create (and deprecate) the full gammut of curtain colours? or should we just deprecate the existing ones and deal with new ones when they are created?

it's actually preferable to split large burs into smaller chunks due to the all-or-nothing nature of burs.

That's good to know. In the future I'll make multiples.

In fact, if we are depricating curtain colours, I wonder if we should also go ahead and depricate various curtain patterns, such as plaid_curtains, frilled_curtains, lace_curtains and print_curtains. they all are tagged on less than 50 posts each, and, again, it seems unlikely that anyone is going to be searching for plaid curtains or frilly curtains specifically. I think they might be getting into to much detail for something that's almost always a background object. torn_curtains seems more important to keep around, since that might serve as something of a barometer on the tone of an image that could be useful for searching. I'm also starting to feel that blood_on_curtains is probably better off getting nuked and replaced with the more versatile blood + curtains tags.

BUR #42445 has been rejected.

nuke blood_on_curtains

It's too niche, we can just use blood and curtains separately instead.

BUR #42446 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

nuke brown_curtains
nuke aqua_curtains
nuke grey_curtains
nuke yellow_curtain

get rid of spurious curtain colour tags: too much detail on a background object, and most curtains have no associated colour tag so they're not useful for searching

i believe blood on curtains and torn curtains should stay, searching curtains blood brings up mostly posts that contain blood and curtains but not bloodied curtains, and torn curtains can't be found at all without the tag. they're both pretty distinct looks as well.

the rest of the material related tags, except see-through curtains, can go though, i don't see any utility in them.

BUR #42470 is pending approval.

mass update frilled_curtains -> frills curtains
mass update lace_curtains -> lace curtains
nuke print_curtains
nuke plaid_curtains
nuke frilled_curtains
nuke lace_curtains

uncommon material tags for curtains which don't seem to be very useful for searching due to how rarely they are applied even when applicable. print curtains will need to be manually re-tagged with the particular kind of print used for the curtains, such as floral_print etc.

MysteriousLounger said:

BUR #42470 is pending approval.

mass update frilled_curtains -> frills curtains
mass update lace_curtains -> lace curtains
nuke print_curtains
nuke plaid_curtains
nuke frilled_curtains
nuke lace_curtains

uncommon material tags for curtains which don't seem to be very useful for searching due to how rarely they are applied even when applicable. print curtains will need to be manually re-tagged with the particular kind of print used for the curtains, such as floral_print etc.

The 'plaid' tag is deprecated though.

CommentaryRequest said:

The 'plaid' tag is deprecated though.

I've removed the request to add plaid since it is deprecated. in that case, do we want to keep plaid_curtains? I still don't think it's very useful since it's applied to so few posts, but I guess I don't have anything against keeping it. If we keep one of these material tags, I think we should keep the lot.

Again related to BUR #42470, I have now manually gone through all of the active posts with print_curtains (there are only 50 total) and either added the appropriate print tag as needed or verified that they already had it. So that's been taken care of if we decide we don't want to keep these material tags.

With regards to blood_on_curtains, my mind has been changed again; I think it should be kept.

with regards to torn_curtains, I agree that it should be kept.

I'm going to recreate my initial request, BUR #42428, as multiple smaller requests so they can be voted on more easily.

BUR #42472 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias sheer_curtains -> see-through_curtains
create alias translucent_curtains -> see-through_curtains

Sheer and translucent curtains should be aliased to the correct tag for convenience when tagging, so that the correct tag is easy to find if the user doesn't know the tag name.

BUR #42473 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

nuke pleated_curtains

pleated_curtains is applied to only 7 posts. The curtains are just regular curtains, and don't have a distinct pleat where the fabric has been pressed or stitched together. I think this makes the tag ambiguous with the regular curtains tag and doesn't seem to add any information.

BUR #42474 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias lifting_curtains -> opening_curtains

lifting_curtains is applied to only 3 posts. I think it should be aliased to opening_curtains to make both tags more searchable and useful, even though this does destroy some information and make the tag slightly broader.

BUR #42476 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication floating_curtains -> curtains
create implication behind_curtains -> curtains
create implication opening_curtains -> curtains
create implication blood_on_curtains -> curtains

floating_curtains, behind_curtains, opening_curtains, and blood_on_curtains should all imply the generic curtains tag

The bulk update request #42476 (forum #361095) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #42445 (forum #361029) has been rejected by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #42446 (forum #361031) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

The bulk update request #42429 (forum #360990) has been approved by @nonamethanks.