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The couple tag is used for images with apparent romantic overtones, so just tagging it on any heterosexual persons having sex is the wrong way of doing things.
I don't really see the point of having a tag for heterosexual relationships aside from couple, but there's the more general heterosexual tag, though it looks like someone's touhou sex search modifier.
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korokun said:
I think tags are what describe, objectively, the content of a post, not a particular interpretation. Even if there is some subtext, what matters is what the pixels say.
I think that tags should try to objectively describe the content of a post. 'Sexy' is a bad tag, yes, because what it is trying to describe is inherently subjective and, therefore, not a useful description to most people.
But images are sometimes ambiguous -- it is possible to read the content of the post in multiple ways. There is no way to tag those images entirely objectively -- removing 'yuri' from a borderline image is also a subjective judgment.
(Another example would be an image of two girls, one very tiny-looking, one very large-looking, with both in appropriately-sized clothes or naked, and with nothing else in the image to use for a measure of absolute scale -- so should it be tagged minigirl or giantess? Either tag would involve at least some subjectivity, and it would obviously be silly to tag with neither. I would argue the best option is to tag with both.)
So in those cases, I think it would be best to tag an ambiguous image based on anything that it could be reasonably interpreted as; that seems, to me, like it's the choice most likely to produce a useful description of what the image is.
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Katajanmarja said:
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Hmm, after reading that, it makes sense to leave ambiguous stuff like post #367591 and safe stuff like post #585847 tagged as yuri, and not bring shoujo-ai in as a tag. But then where do we stand as far as tagging stuff like post #93421 or post #537279 as yaoi? It seems to me that we ought to tag them yaoi for consistency with the yuri tagging policy. There's a shounen-ai tag, though it's hardly used. If we're not using shoujo-ai, then shouldn't we also not use shounen-ai?
jjj14 said:
But then where do we stand as far as tagging stuff like post #93421 or post #537279 as yaoi?
The first one is not Yaoi. We discussed this. The second one is obviously Yaoi.
I don't see why this is complicated, its the exact same thing overall.
jjj14 said:
If we're not using shoujo-ai, then shouldn't we also not use shounen-ai?
Now that would be another discussion.
shounen-ai is an original Japanese genre term, while shoujo-ai is not. But... Oh jeez, the Wikigodz know far more about it than I do.
More stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dnen-ai
Hokay, I'm kinda late to the party, but:
1. Distinction between shoujo-ai and yuri is stupid and was created by clueless western weaboos who don't actually know enough about Japanese. Just as the distinction between hentai and ecchi, which doesn't exist in Japanese. Yuri means lesbian content, end of story. Whether they're getting it on or just looking into each other's eyes doesn't matter and can be dealt with with ratings.
(Btw, "shounen-ai" distinction doesn't exist either, it's just a matter of what term is currently en vogue)
2. post #586441 -- they're clearly a married couple. If that's not yuri, I don't know what is.
post #535556 -- ...okay, that'd be having a kid, like in this picture.
As for post #367591 -- Meiko is very close, and while it's not immediately noticeable, her arm is wrapped around Miku. I say it's yuri enough.
่ๆ said:
Hokay, I'm kinda late to the party, but:
1. Distinction between shoujo-ai and yuri is stupid and was created by clueless western weaboos who don't actually know enough about Japanese. Just as the distinction between hentai and ecchi, which doesn't exist in Japanese. Yuri means lesbian content, end of story. Whether they're getting it on or just looking into each other's eyes doesn't matter and can be dealt with with ratings.
It is not just explicit sex vs. safe for work. Safe explict yuri includes kissing, hearts in the air, etc. But platonic yuri is way distant from that.
่ๆ said:
2. post #586441 -- they're clearly a married couple. If that's not yuri, I don't know what is.
post #535556 -- ...okay, that'd be having a kid, like in this picture.
I agree with these two.
่ๆ said:
As for post #367591 -- Meiko is very close, and while it's not immediately noticeable, her arm is wrapped around Miku. I say it's yuri enough.
You should take off your yuri goggles. You are giving arguments for a lot of BL tagging here.
So? If it's as BL as the above is yuri, I don't have anything against it. It's not like BL is gross or anything.
