Could be a divine spirit. Although rare and sometimes downright impossible, there are cases where divine spirits become heroic spirit after losing much of their divinity and power.
Ishtar was a fertility goddess whose myth became messy. She may have strengthened that trait due to association with the goddess Inanna, another fertility goddess.
Our Jack is pretty serious about wombs too. Let's ask her.
OH FOR PETE SAKE! 1) it can't possibly be freya cause she is stuck with Louhi and Sitonai inside Illya.
2) Am i SERIOUSLY the only one who read Eirik the Red saga. That's obviously Freydís Eiríksdóttir, Famous for being a pregnant sword wielding viking!
1. Parvati and Brynhildr are both in Passionlip but they're still around, one of them using Possession and the other in the flesh. Artemis too, she's in Melt.
1. Parvati and Brynhildr are both in Passionlip but they're still around, one of them using Possession and the other in the flesh. Artemis too, she's in Melt.
2. The servant is the baby inside the mother.
Yeah but you forget one critical detail buddy, BB reproduced the data of the goddesses to make the alter-ego. it more a copy sort of deal.
No seriously, as Christianity was starting to creep in, they basically made the myth of Baldr so that Baldr is Jesus and Loki is Satan (as opposed to his earlier, much more interesting iterations as a trickster), and after RevelatiRagnarok, Baldr will return from the dead to lead the humans in the utopia that comes after.
The fact that the servant was summoned not born yet might mean there's something amazing about the birth itself... not that I have an idea of who that would be.
1. The baby is the Servant. Or, rather, Arturia specifically states the baby is the "main" Servant... which may imply the mother remains as an additional Servant (ala Mary and Anne).
2. It's a Saber... or the mother is the Saber, and the baby is classified as Saber solely because of the mother it is born from.
So our possibilities (barring some exceptionally weird rules lawyering even by Nasu standards) are:
A. A baby born with a sword in his/her myth.
B. The baby of a renowned swordswoman.
C. A hero who was famous even as a baby (or whose legend began with strange events surrounding it's mother's pregnancy or it's birth), and later acquired a sword or became a notable swordsman.
D. A Heroic mother and child pair with the child being the more famous/stronger of the two.
E. A hero who was noted as a massive mama's boy (unlikely, but I've seen bigger BS).
F. A hero who received aid from his/her mother throughout it's legend.
It's possible the Servant's gimmick is that he/she progresses through it's life from birth until reaching it's strongest point (ala Hideyoshi and his Noble Phantasm that represents his rise to and fall from prominence), but I think that's way too complicated for what is essentially going to be a joke Servant.
I kind of wish Devo was right, if only because a pregnant, sword-wielding Viking would be all kinds of awesome, and we still don't have any good Viking Servants (Erik Bloodaxe, who?).
Mwindo would also have been awesome, given we have no African Servants save the Egyptians (or Queen of Sheba technically), but I doubt even Type Moon is racially insensitive enough to give an African hero a white, blonde mother.
I can see why Jeanne lept to what is obviously the wrong conclusion (no way in Hell is Jesus becoming a Servant, especially not in a gag manga), but you would think she, of all people given her True Name Discernment, would know the mother isn't the Virgin Mary.
Wasn't there a Polish (or somewhere in that region) hero whose mother got him immortality shortly after he was born? Actually, now that I think about it, mothers trying to get their sons immortality seems to be a recurring thing in quite a few myths...
I think we should recall the last time Jeanne tried to identify other Servants. She's pretty unreliable in Riyo comics, so if she thinks it's Mary/Jesus, it most definitely isn't
Mwindo would also have been awesome, given we have no African Servants save the Egyptians (or Queen of Sheba technically), but I doubt even Type Moon is racially insensitive enough to give an African hero a white, blonde mother.
Good analysis...now if only we could narrow that down a bit more...
Also now that I think about it, Mwindo feels much more like a Caster or a Rider to me than a Saber. I don't think he notably wields a sword in his epic much at all. He mostly solves problems with magic.
no way in Hell is Jesus becoming a Servant, especially not in a gag manga
While I agree on the "not in a gag manga" part, saying they have enough sensitivity to not touch Jesus is doubtful, considering Buddha wasn't spared.
LTalon said:
Also now that I think about it, Mwindo feels much more like a Caster or a Rider to me than a Saber. I don't think he notably wields a sword in his epic much at all. He mostly solves problems with magic.
Mwindo's signature weapon is a whip and a lot of Sabers(Nero, Bedivere) aren't even known for using swords to begin with, so it is not out of the question they'd just take liberties to modify his weapons into a whip-sword just to fit him in. Though yes technically he would be better as a Caster. And yes having a white, blonde mother to an African hero would be the epitome of idiocy.
My guess(ignoring her clothings because at this point we know that doesn't really mean shit anymore) are: - Callisto : famously depicted as being pregnant, though doesn't really have an outstanding child. - Marjatta : Finnish mythology analogue of Virgin Mary whose son isn't Jesus and simply became king. That would dodge the Jesus bullet. - Jocasta pregnant with Oedipus : because why the fuck not just lean into this shit.
Other examples I can't think of. Because even for Fate if the child hero is really to eclipse his mother's deeds, why would you not have that hero be the actual Servant we see? Unless creating this "Guess that Servant!" game is more important than actually having characters that make sense. Grated it is a thing I won't put past modern Fate, but it still just plain stupid.
Amirani or Amiran (Georgian: ამირანი) is the name of a culture hero of a Georgian epic who resembles the Classical Prometheus. ... Amirani defies God by introducing to the human kind the use of metal.
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Amirani was the son of Dali, a Caucasian goddess of the hunt, but he was removed prematurely from her womb and raised by a hunter Sulkalmah and his wife Darejan, alongside the latter's two natural sons Badri and Usup.
- Jocasta pregnant with Oedipus : because why the fuck not just lean into this shit.
Fate: Now you're thinking with fetishes!
Although if you want to really go all out on this, Zoroastrianism is notorious for "Xwedodah", the practice of marrying close family members as a "divine marriage" because it was meant to copy how Ahura Mazda apparently created a daughter (by "being both mother and father") named Ohrmazd, then produced a son with this daughter, named Spandarmad. Ohrmazd then produced humans by mating with Spandarmad.
Granted, this is about as fucked up as most polytheistic religions tend to go, since when you only have two or three beings in a creation myth that have to breed all other creatures, incest is inevitable, but Zoroastiranism is notable for actually using it as an excuse for their own marriages to family members.
Saber can recognize this, and knows the baby is the Servant.
The mother is blonde and has green eyes, just like Saber.
My theory is the woman is Saber's mother, Uther's lover, and the baby inside of her is, as a matter of fact, Artoria herself. Think about it, we haven't had an Unborn Saberface yet...
1. The baby is the Servant. Or, rather, Arturia specifically states the baby is the "main" Servant... which may imply the mother remains as an additional Servant (ala Mary and Anne).
2. It's a Saber... or the mother is the Saber, and the baby is classified as Saber solely because of the mother it is born from.
So our possibilities (barring some exceptionally weird rules lawyering even by Nasu standards) are:
A. A baby born with a sword in his/her myth.
B. The baby of a renowned swordswoman.
C. A hero who was famous even as a baby (or whose legend began with strange events surrounding it's mother's pregnancy or it's birth), and later acquired a sword or became a notable swordsman.
D. A Heroic mother and child pair with the child being the more famous/stronger of the two.
E. A hero who was noted as a massive mama's boy (unlikely, but I've seen bigger BS).
F. A hero who received aid from his/her mother throughout it's legend.
There is actually an aztec legend that touches almost all these points The aztec sun and war god Huitzilopochtli was born after her mother, the goddess of fertility, got pregnant after stuffing a ball of feathers on her belly, when they hear the news his 400 brothers led by her sister tried to kill him the moment he was born because they thought he was the result of an affair. When he was born the first thing he did was to take a flaming sword and kill all his brothers and dismember her sister
Lately Riyo is making new servants like no tomorrow, I wonder why.
"Holy shit, they actually ran with my idea for a psychopathic mute toddler being Paul Bunyan just because my not-a-guide was popular?! I wonder what even crazier shit I can bamboozle the loonies in charge of this game into adding and get fanboys to have massive Internet Power Level arguments about?!"
There is actually an aztec legend that touches almost all these points The aztec sun and war god Huitzilopochtli was born after her mother, the goddess of fertility, got pregnant after stuffing a ball of feathers on her belly, when they hear the news his 400 brothers led by her sister tried to kill him the moment he was born because they thought he was the result of an affair. When he was born the first thing he did was to take a flaming sword and kill all his brothers and dismember her sister
Meanwhile the mom is thinking “oh myself I’ve given birth to a Meso Murder Machine”.
He has...Jeanne-san?At last, a new Saber has been born......But still, I didn't expect a pregnant Servant.My Lord has come to FGO, hasn't he?Um, pardon me.I was passing through again and overheard your conversation...At last... at last...HALLELUJAH~ HALLELUJAH~Eh......Let's erect a church and gather believers right away!!It's all thanks to Saber-san teaching me the secrets of child rearing.Eh? It seems that it's not a pregnant Servant, but rather a Servant summoned just before birth?Just what I'd expect from someone who was married with a childIn other words, the baby inside this woman is the main Servant?
