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I've looked at the site's wiki and it says that images with multiple views such as dakimakuras, collages, age comparison, variations, or a reference sheet can't be tagged as 'solo'. I'm confused as to why that is as most of these images is just as single character by themselves. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought solo means just one character and no one else.
solo means one depiction of one character. If one character is depicted multiple times, that's multiple views.
Someone brought this up regarding a similar topic I made about tagging solo in comics: forum #129161
hasu_no_tokimeki said:
solo means one depiction of one character. If one character is depicted multiple times, that's multiple views.
Then why isn't there a tag for when an image has a single character, regardless of how many times it's depicted?
BaiserLaVerite said:
Then why isn't there a tag for when an image has a single character, regardless of how many times it's depicted?
That's ideally what 1girl already is though it requires fine-tuning to weed out porn 1girl -(1boy or multiple_boys) is the search you're looking for but it takes more than 2 tags.
But still, it is just ONE character. No one else. So I don't understand the difference.
Indicboi45 said:
But still, it is just ONE character. No one else. So I don't understand the difference.
Because solo is for one and only one view of the character. The only time there can be multiple instances of the character in a solo post is when one of them is a zoom layer, since it is basically just the same image in the background.
Some posts that include animals can apparently also be tagged solo, though I think if the animals are acting as characters in their own right, it shouldn't be used for those.
Related: topic #21174
Basically, there is no good reason other than "that's just how it's always been"
For what's worth I've always thought it stupid too. A post depicting a character from multiple views is obviously depicting a single character. Only someone with no object permanence would think otherwise.
There's a bunch of builders and mods who dedicate multiple hours a week cleaning up multiple_views solo and nothing ever changes. Just look at forum #212050, 3 years ago when I last checked the tag solo had been removed 95k times. It's a pointless fight for a stupid definition that only causes problems.
See also forum #212079.
zetsubousensei said:
That's ideally what 1girl already is though it requires fine-tuning to weed out porn 1girl -(1boy or multiple_boys) is the search you're looking for but it takes more than 2 tags.
That's ignoring tags like 1other, and multiple_others, or plain mistags.
If this arbitrary distinction is to continue, at very least there should be another tag to be used on pictures that feature only one character.
BaiserLaVerite said:
That's ignoring tags like 1other, and multiple_others, or plain mistags.
If this arbitrary distinction is to continue, at very least there should be another tag to be used on pictures that feature only one character.
A solution if you're looking for someone specific could be makise_kurisu chartags:1 but that of course is an impossible search for original art.
For what it's worth it makes sense to me to have a tag for single subject images if I'm searching for art to use as a banner or as an avatar I don't want sketch pages or images with multiple_views to come up. Changing the meaning of solo makes that just as tedious of a search only in the opposite direction
zetsubousensei said:
A solution if you're looking for someone specific could be makise_kurisu chartags:1 but that of course is an impossible search for original art.
For what it's worth it makes sense to me to have a tag for single subject images if I'm searching for art to use as a banner or as an avatar I don't want sketch pages or images with multiple_views to come up. Changing the meaning of solo makes that just as tedious of a search only in the opposite direction
chartags:1 also doesn't work on characters with costume tags like gacha characters and vtubers.
I think opening up solo to multiple views of a single character and just having a new tag that's only for one depiction of a character would be best but we're long past the point where changing something like that would be reasonable.
BaiserLaVerite said:
If this arbitrary distinction is to continue, at very least there should be another tag to be used on pictures that feature only one character.
That would be 99.99% of solo.
solo has close to 5.4m posts. multiple_views has 187k, and not all of them are of single characters. We don't need a tag for solo -multiple_views, because that's already what the vast majority of solo is.
My opinion hasn't changed since participating in topic #21174. It's a ridiculous oldbooru definition that was unintuitive and illogical when it was coined and has continued to prove itself unintuitive and illogical every single day since.
It's also another example of something stupid that we can't get rid of because when it gets brought up a bunch of veteran users can't stand the idea of "diluting" a tag by less than 5%. So we have to inconvenience everyone else, instead.
Likewise, I'm still of the opinion that it's something of a nonsense clause that currently makes searching for a concept as straightforward as "all the art of a single character and only this character" essentially impossible.
Getting rid of this clause would make this search possible, while barely doing any sort of "diluting" the solo tag, and keeping "one view of one character" searchable by adding -multiple_views.
The rationale is that things like this shouldn't count as solo because it doesn't look like one person, it looks like multiple people:
evazion said:
The rationale is that things like this shouldn't count as solo because it doesn't look like one person, it looks like multiple people:
That's clearly just multiple instances of a single character to me 
Yeah, and "multiple instances of a single character" and "a single instance of a single character" are visually two different things. If we have multiple views for "multiple views of a single character", then we also need a tag for "a single view of a single character". Currently solo is that tag.
Otherwise it's impossible to find "Hatsune Miku by herself" without getting unexpected corner cases like "Hatsune Miku with a dozen copies of herself":
Now you would have to do something like hatsune_miku solo -comic -multiple_views -multiple_persona -variations if you want to find "a single view of a single character", which is certainly not the first thing you would think of.
evazion said:
Now you would have to do something like hatsune_miku solo -comic -multiple_views -multiple_persona -variations if you want to find "a single view of a single character", which is certainly not the first thing you would think of.
post #9367439 is character doll, missed one
hatsune_miku ~solo ~multiple_views is pretty overwhelmingly solo -multiple_views, at least (pretty awkward to find "comics with 1 character" due to how variant chartags work, so can't really filter there)
