Barbie Animated Movie Alter Egos

BUR #42336 is pending approval.

All are characters that are portrayed by barbie, as in the barbie animated film series barbie is an actress and the movies are films she starred in in-universe.

It's weird to me, because these characters, while played by Barbie, aren't exactly Barbie in-universe either exactly. I worry over the idea of a potential, say, Odette (Barbie) (cosplay) tag ever spawning. Would the cosplaying character also be tagged Barbie (character)?

Yeah I'm neutral on this going through, personally. To me this feels similar to the situation with the Evillious Nendaiki chartags, though there's an obvious difference there in that Riliane Lucifen d'Autriche wasn't created by Crypton Future Media while Clara was absolutely created by Mattel.

Knowledge_Seeker said:

It's weird to me, because these characters, while played by Barbie, aren't exactly Barbie in-universe either exactly.

All of the movies begin with Barbie sitting down to tell her sister a story where she inserts herself as the main character, which is why I say that they should be considered Barbie in-universe. It’s not just implied through the movie titles and external content, every movie explicitly shows that Barbie is the main character. Mattel considers all characters played by Barbie to be Barbie (which is why only characters played by Barbie actually get Barbie dolls made of them, unfortunately).

pipirupirupirupipirupi said:

All of the movies begin with Barbie sitting down to tell her sister a story where she inserts herself as the main character, which is why I say that they should be considered Barbie in-universe. It’s not just implied through the movie titles and external content, every movie explicitly shows that Barbie is the main character. Mattel considers all characters played by Barbie to be Barbie (which is why only characters played by Barbie actually get Barbie dolls made of them, unfortunately).

That doesn't exactly solve the issue of cosplay, brought up however. I think it'd be better to just keep the tags separated. The moment a cosplay post crops up, we're in trouble if this BUR goes through, I think.

post #5610095 already shows some of the costumes without the characters themselves being present.

Knowledge_Seeker said:

That doesn't exactly solve the issue of cosplay, brought up however. I think it'd be better to just keep the tags separated. The moment a cosplay post crops up, we're in trouble if this BUR goes through, I think.

I guess I’m just not seeing what the problem would be if a cosplay post gets tagged as Barbie (character). It would be a Barbie cosplay. The characters even all have Barbie doll versions. The outfit without the character is still a Barbie outfit.

Ylimegirl said:

post #5610095 already shows some of the costumes without the characters themselves being present.

Yep. Not exactly the scenario I had in mind, but this would be the exact sort of thing I'd be worried over.

pipirupirupirupipirupi said:

I guess I’m just not seeing what the problem would be if a cosplay post gets tagged as Barbie (character). It would be a Barbie cosplay. The characters even all have Barbie doll versions. The outfit without the character is still a Barbie outfit.

I suppose it depends on how we are willing to handle the character of Barbie tagging wise. Right now, the movie characters are acknowledged as being alter egos but not implied to her, as she often acts very differently in these movies compared to her normal portrayal in Barbie media where the character is clearly her. It makes me think of the magical girls, and forum #267968. I see a similar sort of scenario to that here forming.

Admittedly, this isn't at all on the level of series like Precure, and it's extremely unlikely we'll be flooded with cosplay posts anytime soon. But however, the implication would raise a lot of questions, especially among in-franchise crossovers, much less shipping. Would this make things like post #8103943 selfcest then? Because if this implication goes through, that's the exact sort of situation we'd end up with, and I think trying to wrap my head around that would be a bit of a mindscrew, and not one I think anyone here actually wants. I know I don't.

These seem similar to the Sonic and the Black Knight characters to me. Those are implied, but at the same time, I agree this situation is a bit weirder.

Knowledge_Seeker said:

But however, the implication would raise a lot of questions, especially among in-franchise crossovers...

First time? At least they aren't official...

Back on-topic, I wouldn't tag that post selfcest even with the implication, IMO. She's playing fictional characters that aren't the same person, and the image is clearly depicting the fictional characters and not two Barbies.

In-universe Barbie is playing the fictional characters, but fictional characters can be drawn without just depicting who's playing them, yknow?

Confetto said:

Back on-topic, I wouldn't tag that post selfcest even with the implication, IMO. She's playing fictional characters that aren't the same person, and the image is clearly depicting the fictional characters and not two Barbies.

Yeah, I wouldn't either for this exact reason. But we know how pedantic taggers can often be lol.