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magcolo said:
Basic AI artstyle, weird hair logic, the background flowers, the eyes. I didn't find much direct evidence like obvious fusions, but it might ai-assisted. Also the artist's other works could get a check too.
Yeah this gives AI and raster-to-vector-to-raster vibes. But I'm not confident enough to call it.
Sibyl said:
I was gonna say "hand-drawn" until i noticed the absurdity of whatever she's sitting on + her sus left hand, probably just assisted tho
The deleted posts were tagged with AI-generated/assisted, but not the currently active ones.
AkaringoP said:
Yes. Blurry upscale from lowres AI image and what catches my eye first is the AI nonsense with the decorations along the bottom of the hat. Not sure what happened to the top of the hat either.
They responded to claims of using AI with the following video showing sketches and layers: https://twitter.com/amakidaisuke/status/1670830244457226241
EDIT: F, I didn't save it and it got deleted shortly after I posted this, gotta wait to see if they post something again. If my opinion has any strenght, the video I saw was pretty believable, they went through line and color layers of all of their recent artworks in PaintTool SAI, but the question of using AI to assist remained. The other artist questioning them then claimed it to be tracing over AI and demanded a timelapse.
EDIT2: Similar to https://twitter.com/amakidaisuke/status/1667506378687287296. I'm asking here exactly because I'm not up to date on AI art generators Maiden in Orange.
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Individual said:
They responded to claims of using AI with the following video showing sketches and layers: https://twitter.com/amakidaisuke/status/1670830244457226241
EDIT: F, I didn't save it and it got deleted shortly after I posted this, gotta wait to see if they post something again. If my opinion has any strenght, the video I saw was pretty believable, they went through line and color layers of all of their recent artworks in PaintTool SAI, but the question of using AI to assist remained. The other artist questioning them then claimed it to be tracing over AI and demanded a timelapse.
Honestly, I wouldn't trust it so easily. I know for a fact that some AIs will actually generate with layers, presumably to help with the deception (which is all I'll say on that). I'm not saying that's what this person did here, but I am saying to be on your guard. If the artist being accused here does posts a time lapse, well now you know for sure they are human.
But that's just my two cents on the matter. Use your best judgement on this.
Edit: Sorry Individual. I wasn't sure if you knew, and that wasn't my place to talk in the first place.
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hikari_(hikaring3120) artworks are suspicious. This artist posts daily, that's a bad sign. Check post #6395570. Those are AI eyes. Look at the detached collar.
Please check these too: A B C
Drimacus said:
hikari_(hikaring3120) artworks are suspicious. This artist posts daily, that's a bad sign. Check post #6395570. Those are AI eyes. Look at the detached collar.
Please check these too: A B C
I'm pretty much convinced it's all AI
every single post, both here on danbooru, and on the twitter links, have some visible AI fuckery in it, for example post #6408324 : look at the hand, the skirt pleats, the clothing folds on the shirt, and the boob merging with the arm, and there's some little hair shenanigans too
Individual said:
The other artist questioning them then claimed it to be tracing over AI and demanded a timelapse.
Oh for the sake of all that's holy. By 2024 we'll get to "you either stream your painting process on YouTube and publish the VOD or you're using AI" level of witchhunting. How can an artist get a timelapse out of an already finished work?
https://twitter.com/amakidaisuke/status/1670855936532164608
This latest screen recording is quite convincing to me. It has all the brushstrokes and rough edges of a human-created PSD. The shading is done layer-by-layer. The ordering of the layers is logical. if anyone can name an AI which generates PSD that looks like this, I might change my mind, but for now I believe it's fully human.
I think I've found the basis on which some people are questioning post #6413310 and the likes. It's this Twitter user.
https://twitter.com/daisuki73/media
They are offering this AI detection tool
https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection
whose reliability I cannot speak of, but here are some interesting examples.
https://twitter.com/daisuki73/status/1667887215329050625 is claiming post #6365274 is AI
https://twitter.com/daisuki73/status/1668099884556353538 is claiming post #6390143 is AI, among other posts by dikko
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8253803 said:
Oh for the sake of all that's holy. By 2024 we'll get to "you either stream your painting process on YouTube and publish the VOD or you're using AI" level of witchhunting. How can an artist get a timelapse out of an already finished work?
https://twitter.com/amakidaisuke/status/1670855936532164608
This latest screen recording is quite convincing to me. It has all the brushstrokes and rough edges of a human-created PSD. The shading is done layer-by-layer. The ordering of the layers is logical. if anyone can name an AI which generates PSD that looks like this, I might change my mind, but for now I believe it's fully human.
uhm, in the video, whenever it's the lineart that is shown, there are suspicious areas in it that suggest it was traced, for exemple when he goes over the file of post #6413310 , lineart suspiciously disappears right on the spots completely covered by the ray of light; he "could have" just made that choice to erase it after the fact, or, the 99% probability is, that this gap of lineart is from mindless tracing over ai-generated stuff, since it really does coincide with where the light becomes fully opaque, and the most logical and straighforward way to handle this area for a human would have just been to let the lineart as is and just put the layer of the ray of light above everything else or at least just the lineart, for the same final result.
It was never about "Ai generating PSDs", just about knowing how far some AI users are willing to go to try and pass their ai-generated shit as hand-drawn, it wouldn't be the first time one just traces a layered PSD for that very purpose, it still is less work than actually drawing.
You can call it "witchhunting" but ignoring the lengths ai-bros are willing to go to deceive people is just being naive, i mean we literally had one make an account on danbooru to post their ai-generated images (without tagging self-upload) then pretend to be someone else to link a "artist's response to ai-use accusations" right in this thread.
Mayhem-Chan said:
lineart suspiciously disappears right on the spots completely covered by the ray of light
If the layer of the rays of light was never turned off (due to Japan's laws for censorship, likely), and was above all other layers, then when the artist showed the lineart, the rays of light would cover the lineart underneath. At least, that's the explanation if we apply Occam's razor.
Take a close look at the moment before they showed the lineart, 1:16. The only layers that were turned on were: 1. the rays of light; 2. some hearts; 3. the pink background; 4. the lineart that was beneath the background. When the artist turned off the pink background, the lineart was revealed, and don't forget, the rays of light (white and blends with the canvas) were still there.
Mayhem-Chan said:
ignoring the lengths ai-bros are willing to go to deceive people is just being naive
True, but let me reiterate that having a witchhunting mindset makes a person see stuff that's not there due to confirmation bias.
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8253803 said:
I think I've found the basis on which some people are questioning post #6413310 and the likes. It's this Twitter user.
https://twitter.com/daisuki73/media
They are offering this AI detection tool
https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection
whose reliability I cannot speak of, but here are some interesting examples.
https://twitter.com/daisuki73/status/1667887215329050625 is claiming post #6365274 is AI
https://twitter.com/daisuki73/status/1668099884556353538 is claiming post #6390143 is AI, among other posts by dikko
Wow, this AI detection tool has marked lots of artworks that I wouldn't have suspected as >50% or even >90% AI, such as z.taiga and foxyreine. I don't know what to think. Try it yourselves.
Edit to add: I tested it using a PSD from an artist's Patreon, exporting two images with backgrounds on / off, and noticed that this tool spits out false positive when the image has a background? Yeah gotta be careful when using this tool.
background on: post #6404534, 73.8%
background off: https://files.catbox.moe/8m4m2r.png, 3.1%
Edit 2: As kittey says below
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8253803 said:
Wow, this AI detection tool has marked lots of artworks that I wouldn't have suspected as >50% or even >90% AI, such as z.taiga and foxyreine. I don't know what to think. Try it yourselves.
These tools have been discussed on the forums before. AI detection is even more trash than AI generation. Don’t trust it.
